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From Arun C Murthy <...@hortonworks.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Spin out MR, HDFS and YARN as their own TLPs and disband Hadoop umbrella project
Date Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:29:09 GMT
Eli,

On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:02 AM, Eli Collins wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Arun C Murthy <acm@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Eli Collins wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>>> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>> Arun, great work below. Concrete, and an actual proposal of PMC lists.
>>>> 
>>>> What do folks think?
>>> 
>>> I don't see how it helps. This substantially *increases* the size of
>>> the PMC for HDFS, I don't even recognize a bunch of names on this
>>> list. Unless we're actually going to try to make the HDFS project
>>> represent the people who actually contribute and run the project we're
>>> just replicating the current situation across 3 projects.  5+ hdfs
>>> patches in the last year seems like a pretty low bar to me.
>> 
>> 
>> Fine. Could you please provide us with an alternate for consideration?
>> 
> 

Ok, I'll bite - I find learned helplessness very frustrating.

I modified my proposal to keep the current distinction of Committers v/s PMC for all projects
i.e. all projects keep the list of committers I had but PMC is restricted to a intersection
of current PMC and respective project's committer list:

http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HDFS_MR_YARN_TLP_Proposal


> Todd's list seems more in line with the goal of reducing project
> members to reflect the actual community.
> 

I do hope you merely missed my response to Todd's proposal which needs a lot more work: http://s.apache.org/OYK.

If you are going to support it, please fix it first. If not, I'll assume you agree with my
modifications since they addressed your concerns of *substantially increasing* HDFS PMC size.

Arun


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