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From Eli Collins <...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] - Establish YARN as a sub-project of Apache Hadoop
Date Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:27:35 GMT
Agree with Tom.  No reason moving the yarn directory up one level in
the repo means we need to revisit all this now. Let's get back to work
and revisit this at TLP time.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Tom White <tom@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Arun,
>
> Creating a list of people without specifying the precise criteria is
> problematic (particularly since the criteria weren't discussed before
> the vote), and it's awkward for those folks who have committed code to
> YARN in the past but are not on the list to have to ask to be
> included. It's far better to be inclusive and welcoming, and in
> practice it isn't a problem at all if we are "overly" inclusive in
> adding MR committers since folks are aware of their limitations and
> commit appropriately as ATM pointed out.
>
> I think it would be simpler to add all the MR committers and deal with
> emeritus questions separately, e.g. at the point that the subprojects
> become TLPs.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Arun C Murthy <acm@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>> Tom,
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Tom White wrote:
>>
>>> Alternatively, if it's generally
>>> considered important to start with active committers, add all MR
>>> committers who have previously committed to the YARN tree.
>>
>> Good point. As I said, my personal preference is different; but if you feel strongly
I'm happy to get to consensus and preempt a long discussion.
>>
>> So, here is the list of folks who have either contributed or reviewed-and-committed
(a handful of) YARN patches in the last 18 months:
>>
>> * Alejandro Abdelnur
>> * Arun C. Murthy
>> * Chris Douglas
>> * Devaraj Das
>> * Hitesh Shah
>> * Jonathan Eagles
>> * Luke Lu
>> * Mahadev Konar
>> * Robert Evans
>> * Siddharth Seth
>> * Sharad Agarwal
>> * Thomas Graves
>> * Tom White
>> * Vinod Kumar V
>>
>> Hope that it reasonable and we can get back to our caves to crank out code. *smile*
>>
>> thanks,
>> Arun
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Robert Evans <evans@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>>> I personally am +1 for only pulling over committers from MR that have been
>>>> active on YARN.  Like Arun said YARN is new code and not everything in MR
>>>> applies directly to YARN or vise versa.
>>>>
>>>> --Bobby
>>>>
>>>> On 8/14/12 1:19 PM, "Arun C Murthy" <acm@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Tom White wrote:
>>>>>> The committer list needs to be set up
>>>>>> by editing
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/subversion/author
>>>>>> ization/asf-authorization-template.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good point, thanks for pointing it out.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It should have the initial contents of the MR committer list. When
we
>>>>>> split the committer lists for Hadoop into Common, HDFS, MR we made
>>>>>> them all start out with the Hadoop list, so we should do the same
for
>>>>>> splitting YARN out of MR.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For a while now, we maintain distinct committer lists for HDFS &
>>>>> MapReduce and nominations for new committers are based on their
>>>>> contributions to the individual sub-project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Following that I would like to propose the following.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that:
>>>>> # YARN is a substantial (~100K LoC) and new body of work which has been
>>>>> around for nearly 18 months now.
>>>>> # It is also very distinct from Hadoop MapReduce itself, as discussed
in
>>>>> this thread, and wasn't derived from any of the existing Hadoop
>>>>> sub-projects.
>>>>> I propose we define the list as the committers who have been active and
>>>>> have made significant contributions to the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick review of subversion leads me to suggest the following list (in
>>>>> lexical order).
>>>>> If there is anyone who has contributed significantly to YARN and is not
>>>>> on that list, please accept my apologies in advance and let me know,
I'll
>>>>> add you in.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Alejandro Abdelnur
>>>>> * Arun C. Murthy
>>>>> * Chris Douglas
>>>>> * Hitesh Shah
>>>>> * Jonathan Eagles
>>>>> * Luke Lu
>>>>> * Mahadev Konar
>>>>> * Robert Evans
>>>>> * Siddharth Seth
>>>>> * Sharad Agarwal
>>>>> * Thomas Graves
>>>>> * Vinod Kumar V
>>>>>
>>>>> This approach seems consistent with what we have done historically with
>>>>> other new sub-projects such as Hive, Pig, HBase, ZooKeeper, etc. and
with
>>>>> the Apache principle of Meritocracy.
>>>>> Also, since we're starting with folks from 6 companies we already meet
>>>>> the Incubator criteria for diversity, which seems healthy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, additional contributors will be encouraged to join the
>>>>> sub-project via the normal mechanisms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last, not least, most people on the MapReduce committer list are already
>>>>> part of the Hadoop PMC and hence they have svn rights if necessary -
this
>>>>> doesn't change that and we continue to trust them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Arun
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>

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