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From Arun C Murthy <...@hortonworks.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Merging 0.23-PB to 0.23
Date Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:25:21 GMT

On Mar 18, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Arun Murthy <acm@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>  Agree. In fact, I'm happy to rename branch-0.23 to branch-Y (Y > 1),
>> if we can agree on the other thread, & create the RC.
>> 
>>  I agree with Todd (P) that its time to call it some thing other than
>> 0.23, particularly with HDFS Wire-Compat and HA. Thoughts?
> 
> It might be useful to put various options up for the community vote.
> We don't have too many of them, really:
>   branch-2
>   branch-3
> 
> Personally, I'm for branch-3. Regardless of the potential of .22 I'd
> rather keep a slot for it. Worse case -- we don't have Hadoop 2 ever.

That seems reasonable at first glance.

However, the problem is that hadoop-0.22 has removed public and non-deprecated apis/features
(i.e. security) which are present in branch-1 (previously branch-0.20.2xx). 

This is against the Apache Hadoop release policy on major releases i.e. only features deprecated
for at least one release can be removed.

To their credit, the folks driving branch-0.22 (Konstantin et al) have always been clear that
they do not plan to support security in branch-0.22 - but, it still is a blocker for renaming
hadoop-0.22 to hadoop-2. 

Given that
# It's been ~16 months since we branched 0.22
# It's been ~12 months since we released hadoop-0.20.203 which eventually became branch-1
# It's been ~9 months since security was removed from branch-0.22
# The vast majority of the contributors have moved on to trunk/branch-0.23 (#patches &
#commits for past several months).
it's unlikely that branch-0.22 will ever be a super-set of branch-1 and support security.

To be clear, this isn't to discourage folks from working on branch-0.22. As always, people
are welcome to 'scratch the itch' and Konstantin has done a great job pushing branch-0.22.
Folks are welcome to continue to push for future releases off branch-0.22 called hadoop-0.22.xxx.

In summary, unless we can find someone to step up and fix/validate security in branch-0.22
in very short order, say next month or so (given it's long history), I don't think it makes
sense to rename branch-0.22 to branch-2. 

Roman - Would you like to step up and fix & validate security in branch-0.22? 
If so, can you let us know how soon? 
If not, I don't think it makes sense to 'leave a hole' for branch-0.22 forever since branch-0.23
is a super-set of branch-1 and branch-0.22 anyway.

Arun




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