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From Eric Baldeschwieler <eri...@hortonworks.com>
Subject Re: Update on hadoop-0.23
Date Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:27:39 GMT
Hi Doug, Jeff, Roman

Let me rephrase my point.  I'd like to request that folks take bigtop project discussions
onto the bigtop lists and don't greet status reports on general@hadoop with insinuations that
folks who are working really hard on this project should be contributing different things
to another project or are somehow misbehaving by testing on their own infrastructure with
their own users.  Any kind of testing is a gift to the community and adds value.  You are
all welcome to contribute too.  If you find issues, then file JIRAs and work on the appropriate
project lists.  I believe that observing these points of etiquette will help this project
continue to prosper.

I agree with you that the Hadoop project is healthy.  I'll leave the stats discussion to folks
who want to dig through the data.  I'm happy to go through the details with you offline.



On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:

> On 09/29/2011 12:35 PM, Eric Baldeschwieler wrote:
>> If you're wondering why I am asserting that arun and company have
>> done the majority of the work on 23, check out the last graph on this
>> post, or look at the commit logs.
> The ASF discourages the use of Java's @author tag in large part because
> it tends to mark code as the territory of particular contributors.  We
> want ASF codebases to be the responsibility of an entire community.
> Claiming that one party has contributed more than all others together
> seems to me to be a similar claim of ownership and a demand for credit.
> Folks should contribute to the ASF because they want the contributions
> of others to join their contributions, not so they can gain credit.
> Also, I'd be concerned for the health of a project if one group was
> really doing nearly all of the contribution.
>> http://www.hortonworks.com/the-yahoo-effect/
> Hmm.  Lines of code are not proportional to effort.  The stacked
> cumulative histogram makes slopes steeper for those who happen to be on
> top.  And the codebase did not start from zero in 2006.
> Here are some other reports for 0.23 that make contribution look pretty
> diverse and healthy.
> http://s.apache.org/tI
> http://s.apache.org/9mp
> http://s.apache.org/6E2
> Statistics are fun, aren't they!
> Doug

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