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From Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Hadoop build machine donations?
Date Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:08:45 GMT
As I mentioned before, I believe that ASF Infra explicitly does *not* want
donated EC2 instances, but again, check with them to be sure and as to what
the donation process is regardless.

A.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:01 PM, <Milind.Bhandarkar@emc.com> wrote:

> That's good to know, Kos.
>
> Is there any place I can find the actual usage (in terms of utilization /
> memory-cpu-disk usage) of these build machines ?
>
> Based on the Amazon EC2 pricing (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/), I
> would like to determine which type of instances would be adequate, and how
> much yearly budget would be needed.
>
> Since ASF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, charitable organization, these
> donations would be tax deductible for U.S. Based individuals. (Plus for
> new AWS members, there is a free tier for 1 year.) Is there build infra in
> place that will allow these individually donated ec2 instances to be
> utilized ?
>
> - Milind
> ---
> Milind Bhandarkar
> Greenplum Labs,
> EMC
>
>
> (Disclaimer: Opinions expressed in this email are those of the author, and
> do
>  not necessarily represent the views of any organization, past or
> present, the author might be affiliated with.)
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/2/11 11:39 AM, "Konstantin Boudnik" <cos@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >Milind.
> >
> >From about 30 boxes Y! gave to ASF at least (I believe there were more,
> >but at
> >least that much) 10 of them were used _exclusively_ as Hadoop build/test
> >machines (e.g. Hudson slaves) and a number of others (about 5 at least)
> >were
> >used for Hadoop deployment testing _exclusively_. So, I think the claim
> >above
> >doesn't reflect the real situation with hardware donation or perhaps is
> >missing some of the details ;).
> >
> >With that in mind I came across this article goo.gl/EVp5S and now I have
> a
> >bright idea! Shall the hardware donation be proportional to the proclaimed
> >market share (or installation base) of a particular commercial
> >distribution's
> >vendor?  That'd be only fair I guess... Apache Hadoop is about 65% of the
> >installation and Y! brought in 30 machines. If a vendor A or C has say 30%
> >then may be they feel good by donating something like 15 boxes to the
> >cause?
> >
> >--
> >  Take care,
> >  Konstantin (Cos) Boudnik
> >  2CAC 8312 4870 D885 8616  6115 220F 6980 1F27 E622
> >
> >  Disclaimer: Opinions expressed in this email are those of the author,
> >and do
> >  not necessarily represent the views of any company the author might be
> >  affiliated with at the moment of writing.
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:38PM, Milind.Bhandarkar@emc.com wrote:
> >> A couple of questions for Nigel and Andrew:
> >>
> >> 1. What do you mean by "non-single-purpose machines" ? (I guess,
> >>machines
> >> they can use for non-Hadoop projects as well ?)
> >>
> >> 2. Do these machines have to be physical boxes or virtual machines be
> >>okay
> >> too ? (sudo on virtual machines would be easier to sell than on physical
> >> boxes.)
> >>
> >> 3. What's the process for donations ?
> >>
> >> - milind
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Milind Bhandarkar
> >> Greenplum Labs,
> >> EMC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/2/11 8:07 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <andrew.bayer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >FWIW, the ASF Infra guys aren't that keen on more machines they won't
> >>have
> >> >physical control of. There may be some wiggle room on that, but they'll
> >> >definitely need sudo and they would much prefer non-single-purpose
> >> >machines.
> >> >Just a heads up from my talks with Infra lately.
> >> >
> >> >A.
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Nigel Daley <ndaley@mac.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Folks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Given the Hadoop build machines have been offline for a few day, this
> >> >>would
> >> >> be a good time to see if other companies can donate **access**  to
> >>some
> >> >> build hardware to diversify our donors.  Currently there are roughly
> >>30
> >> >> machines donated by Yahoo!
> >> >>
> >> >> Ideally the hardware is:
> >> >> * hosted and OS managed by the donor,
> >> >> * publicly addressable on the internet,
> >> >> * running Ubuntu or CentOS, and
> >> >> * sudo access can be given to Apache's Jenkins admins so they can
> >>create
> >> >> accounts for committers as needed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyone?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Nige
> >> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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