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From Ian Holsman <had...@holsman.net>
Subject Re: Hadoop Java Versions
Date Sun, 03 Jul 2011 04:16:06 GMT

On Jul 2, 2011, at 7:38 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Abhishek Mehta <abhishek@tresata.com>wrote:
>> open and honest conversations on this thread/group, irrespective of
>> whether one represents a company or apache, should be encouraged.
> Paradoxically, I partially agree with Ian on this.  On the one hand, it is
> important to hear about alternatives in the same eco-system (and alternative
> approaches from other communities).  That is a bit different from Ian's
> view.

While I don't mind that technical alternatives get discussed, I do get PO'd when
the conversation goes into why product X is better than Y, or when someone makes claims that
are incorrect because some 'customer' told them and stuff like that.

If we can keep it at architecture/approaches instead of why a certain product is better than
go right ahead.

> Where I agree with him is that discussions should not be in the form of
> simple breast beating.  Discussions should be driven by data and experience.
> All data and experience are of equal value if they represent quality
> thought.  The only place that company names should figure in this is as a
> bookmark so you can tell which product/release has the characteristic under
> consideration.
>> ... And in that sense we all owe ASF and the hadoop community (and not any
>> one company) an equal amount of gratitude, humility and respect.
> This doesn't get said nearly enough.

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