Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B3A369CD for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91413 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jun 2011 08:26:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 90574 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jun 2011 08:26:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 90556 invoked by uid 99); 24 Jun 2011 08:26:34 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:26:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of owen.omalley@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.48 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.48] (HELO mail-pz0-f48.google.com) (209.85.210.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:26:27 +0000 Received: by pzk10 with SMTP id 10so2189113pzk.35 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 01:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.44.130 with SMTP id e2mr1585717pbm.515.1308903966673; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 01:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-70-95-55-11.hawaii.res.rr.com [70.95.55.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p5sm1889725pbd.44.2011.06.24.01.26.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Jun 2011 01:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Owen O'Malley Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--115718501 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 01:26:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: general@hadoop.apache.org References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-15--115718501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, > Steve Loughran has done some great work on defining what can be = called Hadoop at http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Defining%20Hadoop. After = some cleanup from Noirin and Shane, I think we've got a really good = base. I'd like a vote to approve the content (at the current revision = 12) and put the content on our web site. Binding +1: Arun, Chris, Ian, Owen Binding -1: Doug, Eli, Todd Non-binding +1: Allen, Cos, Matt, Steve Non-binding -1: Ted, Jeff Well, technically this passed, but we've been encouraged to discuss it = more. Personally, I'd love to get more feedback from Larry about how we = should accomplish the goal of getting packagers to either use Apache = Hadoop releases or only use "powered by Hadoop." Clearly there is a = significant difference of opinion about the value of that goal that is = unlikely to be resolved by debate. Having a clearly stated trademark statement on the website will help = significantly with contacting organizations that are mis-using the = trademark, so I don't want to postpone this too long. Let's discuss it = for a week and then call a new vote if we think that is merited. -- Owen= --Apple-Mail-15--115718501--