Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4D55606A for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65515 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 15:02:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 65436 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 15:02:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 65419 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jun 2011 15:02:17 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:02:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-qy0-f176.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username omalley, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:02:17 +0000 Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so1029661qyk.14 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.10.209 with SMTP id q17mr831401qcq.106.1308236536034; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.215.206 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:02:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <090F2993-B9AA-410F-AD99-7AC047FFC974@apache.org> <54668CDE-443D-4AF1-B17A-0497D0CDCC8D@yahoo-inc.com> <24C673BE-B252-4643-BA96-EF6E4A9D978D@oracle.com> <61D08301-F6A9-4B9B-9B78-60D7D3B731A4@Holsman.NET> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:02:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page From: "Owen O'Malley" To: general@hadoop.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ecb7403360304a5d58ebe --0016364ecb7403360304a5d58ebe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Eric Sammer wrote: I think the question is can one call it "Hadoop?" Note I'm *not* > saying "Apache Hadoop," just "Hadoop" when the derived work is actually > derived (to any degree, as Craig R pointed out). Apache Hadoop always and > forever means the bits voted on by the PMC - no vendor can claim that - but > there does appear to be plenty of prior examples of "reasonable" use of ASF > (and other OSS organization) project names in clearly derived works. > Thank you, Eric, for demonstrating why we are fixing it. Apache owns the Hadoop trademark. Hadoop is PRECISELY the same as Apache Hadoop. They are two names for the same thing. If the Hadoop PMC were to fail to enforce that, the Apache board would remove us en masse from the PMC. -- Owen --0016364ecb7403360304a5d58ebe--