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From Eli Collins <...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page
Date Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:41:30 GMT
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Owen O'Malley <omalley@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Eric Sammer <esammer@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> I think the question is can one call it "Hadoop?" Note I'm *not*
>> saying "Apache Hadoop," just "Hadoop" when the derived work is actually
>> derived (to any degree, as Craig R pointed out). Apache Hadoop always and
>> forever means the bits voted on by the PMC - no vendor can claim that - but
>> there does appear to be plenty of prior examples of "reasonable" use of ASF
>> (and other OSS organization) project names in clearly derived works.
>>
>
> Thank you, Eric, for demonstrating why we are fixing it. Apache owns the
> Hadoop trademark. Hadoop is PRECISELY the same as Apache Hadoop. They are
> two names for the same thing. If the Hadoop PMC were to fail to enforce
> that, the Apache board would remove us en masse from the PMC.
>

By this logic the Apache board should en masse remove the PMC from the
HTTP Server, Subversion and Tomcat because they've failed to enforce
Red Hat, Novell, Ubuntu and others to stop calling them Apache X.
Clearly that hasn't happened. Let's let the Apache board speak for
itself.

Thanks,
Eli

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