From general-return-3523-apmail-hadoop-general-archive=hadoop.apache.org@hadoop.apache.org Fri May 13 17:33:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1F3B4725 for ; Fri, 13 May 2011 17:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9768 invoked by uid 500); 13 May 2011 17:33:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 9716 invoked by uid 500); 13 May 2011 17:33:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 9708 invoked by uid 99); 13 May 2011 17:33:05 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 May 2011 17:33:05 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of msegel@navteq.com designates 65.167.11.240 as permitted sender) Received: from [65.167.11.240] (HELO xmailchi.navteq.com) (65.167.11.240) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 May 2011 17:33:00 +0000 Received: from chicago-spamfw.navteq.com (imailchi [10.8.5.161]) by xmailchi.navteq.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p4DHWdjL025672 for ; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:32:39 -0500 Received: from imailchi.hq.navteq.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chicago-spamfw.navteq.com (Spam & Virus Firewall) with ESMTP id C014D442246F for ; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:32:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from imailchi.hq.navteq.com (imailchi.hq.navteq.com [10.8.120.104]) by chicago-spamfw.navteq.com with ESMTP id NJhjIqIDdHc7SKDL for ; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:32:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hq-ex-ht02.ad.navteq.com (hq-ex-ht02.ad.navteq.com [10.8.222.172]) by imailchi.hq.navteq.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id p4DHWcNe021920; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:32:38 -0500 Received: from hq-ex-mb03.ad.navteq.com ([fe80::c4dd:7b21:5c22:cfe4]) by hq-ex-ht02.ad.navteq.com ([fe80::24f6:ca50:734d:df6e%13]) with mapi; Fri, 13 May 2011 12:32:38 -0500 From: "Segel, Mike" To: "general@hadoop.apache.org" CC: "general@hadoop.apache.org" Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:32:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Defining Hadoop Compatibility -revisiting- Thread-Topic: Defining Hadoop Compatibility -revisiting- Thread-Index: AcwRk8D/d408HxkoREGgU8PWykB5Jw== Message-ID: References: <4DCCF172.5010504@apache.org> <99AB77CF-025E-4E4A-BD7F-BDA362E633BF@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <99AB77CF-025E-4E4A-BD7F-BDA362E633BF@apache.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-NAIMIME-Disclaimer: 1 X-NAIMIME-Modified: 1 My first read was that they used the term Apache Hadoop in reference of A= pache's release. They referenced their release as Hadoop. Sent from a remote device. Please excuse any typos... Mike Segel On May 13, 2011, at 12:28 PM, "Allen Wittenauer" wrote: >=20 > On May 13, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Doug Cutting wrote: >> Here "certified" is probably just intended to mean that the software >> uses a "certified" open source license, e.g., listed at >> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/. However they should say that thi= s >> "includes" or "contains" the various Apache products, not that it "is"= them. >=20 > If it has a modified version of Hadoop (i.e., not an actual Apache r= elease or patches which have never been committed to trunk), are they all= owed to say "includes Apache Hadoop"? At what point is it not Apache Had= oop? >=20 The information contained in this communication may be CONFIDENTIAL and i= s intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are = not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disseminatio= n, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents= , is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in err= or, please notify the sender and delete/destroy the original message and = any copy of it from your computer or paper files.