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On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:57 AM, Chris Douglas wrote:

> Experience developing Hadoop has shown that we not only need to
> partition our projects for more active releases, but we also should
> explore speculative project splits. For this, a Hadoop.next() project
> should track the development of a project scheduler that can partition
> the Hadoop subprojects, possibly running a second version of a
> subproject in parallel. Downstream subprojects and TLPs automatically
> accept whichever releases first as a dependency. Implementation should
> combine ant, ivy, maven, and at least one legacy Hadoop build tool (to
> be written).


-1, until it supports eclipse.