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From Eric Baldeschwieler <eri...@yahoo-inc.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Move project split down a level
Date Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:40:53 GMT

On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Nigel Daley wrote:

> 
> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze wrote:
>> 
...
>> Why do we want to enforce the releases as a unit, given that the long term  
>> target is to release these 3 projects independently?
> 
> Because that long term view is currently a fantasy with no real end in sight.

** +1 to that.  We release as a unit, branch as a unit, test as a unit, deploy as a unit.
 I've seen no actual gain from the project split, just complexity.  Simplifying things in
the short term seems like a good goal.

> Nige
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Nigel Daley <ndaley@mac.com>
>> To: general@hadoop.apache.org
>> Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 11:21:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move project split down a level
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Nigel,
>>> 
>>>> As I look more at the impact of the common/MR/HDFS project split on what
>>>> and how we release Hadoop, I feel like the split needs an adjustment.  Many
>>>> folks I've talked to agree that the project split has caused us a splitting
>>>> headache.  I think 1 relatively small change could alleviate some of that.
>>> 
>>> Could you elaborate your idea on how the proposed changes would help?  What the

>>> 
>>> problems are being addressed?  It is not clear to me.
>> 
>> Critical in my mind was my statement: "We're a long way from releasing these 3 
>> projects independently.  Given that, they should be branched and released as a 
>> unit."  This can not be enforced given the current svn layout. Other's can weigh

>> in with additional thoughts.
>> 
>>> You are right that the change is small but the impact is huge.  We should first

>>> 
>>> understand what we are getting from the changes before doing it.
>> 
>> What do you see as the huge impact?
>> 
>> Nige
> 


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