Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 89716 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2010 20:27:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 16 Dec 2010 20:27:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 19446 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2010 20:27:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 19362 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2010 20:27:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 19354 invoked by uid 99); 16 Dec 2010 20:27:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:27:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.212.48] (HELO mail-vw0-f48.google.com) (209.85.212.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:26:52 +0000 Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so1557027vws.35 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.185.204 with SMTP id cp12mr2134948vcb.235.1292531191201; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.172.2.226] (h-64-236-128-62.nat.aol.com [64.236.128.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r11sm195732vbx.11.2010.12.16.12.26.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:26:30 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Plans for the 0.22 Release From: Ian Holsman In-Reply-To: <05ED6FF7-6236-47F4-B5DD-8E927971C72D@apache.org> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:26:23 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <39694716-7EF6-41B8-8862-D2DE03A4560C@Holsman.NET> References: <27F4E872-C226-4386-9148-077F0044B6E9@Holsman.net> <05ED6FF7-6236-47F4-B5DD-8E927971C72D@apache.org> To: general@hadoop.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Dec 17, 2010, at 6:15 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: >=20 > On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: >=20 >> how are we going with the 0.22 release. >=20 > Progress has been blocked because HADOOP-6685 is still blocked. I feel = that HADOOP-6685 is critical for Hadoop and don't see much point in = working on a 0.22 release without it. While it may be critical, I still don't understand why we couldn't = release without it, and carry on the discussion.=20 Putting so much emphasis and pressure on this issue is unwarranted.=20 Everyone who has discussed this patch has said it isn't critical to = hadoop, and It's holding up everything else 0.22 is going to bring.=20 There are now 4 separate companies who have released their own 0.20 = version because of the delay on our releasing... Delaying this release another 2-3 months for a single patch seems a bit = extreme to me. =20 > In particular, HADOOP-6685 removes the need for third party = serialization libraries that work around the current limitations of the = MapReduce framework, but splinter the user community. >=20 > If someone else wants to take over as release manager for 0.22 while = we find a solution to make forward progress on HADOOP-6685, that would = be fine. >=20 > -- Owen