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From Owen O'Malley <omal...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed bylaws for Hadoop
Date Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:54:05 GMT

On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:

> With the exception of these two bullets, these bylaws seem  
> equivalent to those posted by several other projects.  Most projects  
> use consensus-but-one for committer and PMC removal.  Was this  
> change intentional or accidental?

It was intentional. In my survey of other Apache project's bylaws, I  
was originally surprised to find some such as HTTP Components (http://hc.apache.org/bylaws.html

) that use majority votes for removing people. However, the question  
is whether a small minority should be able to drain a project's  
attention and energy.

For anyone who hasn't already seen it, there is an outstanding  
presentation on "Open Source Projects and Poisonous People" that was  
done by Brian Fitzpatrick and Ben Collins-Sussman. I'd highly  
recommend it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE. The  
presentation's central thesis is that a project's attention and energy  
are its most valuable resource. People that cause long emotional  
debates without contributing to the project are extremely destructive  
to the project and must occasionally be asked to leave.

Of course everyone hopes to avoid these cases, but the question is  
whether the project should have the mechanism to fix itself. I feel  
that it must.

-- Owen
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