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From Dhruba Borthakur <dhr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Combine MapReduce/HDFS Committers
Date Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:07:02 GMT
For the records, I am +1 on having a single set of committers for  
hdfs , mr and common. For me, all committers do not need to be equally  
good, or have to reach a grand bar; but rather I should trust that  
person to be a team player.

Dhruba

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On Aug 19, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Nigel Daley <ndaley@mac.com> wrote:

>
> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:
>
>> On 08/19/2010 12:48 PM, Stack wrote:
>>> I do not  see how a combined contributor list could act as  
>>> friction on
>>> the ongoing break-up of the hadoop project -- something I'm in favor
>>> of -- nor get in the way of the development of distinct mr/hdfs
>>> user+dev communities; it seems to me that that project can progress
>>> independent of who can commit where.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> Many projects manage such things with trust, not with rigid ACLs.   
>> Some committers are trusted to commit just test code, some just  
>> documentation, and some deep implementation details in particular  
>> areas of the code.  But should any committer wish to manage a  
>> release, or even commit a patch outside of their normal domain of  
>> expertise (if it's been reviewed by someone with expertise in that  
>> domain) they can.  Over time they can gain trust in new areas of  
>> the project.  In such projects, adding a committer merely implies  
>> that you trust someone not to overstep their abilities.  If someone  
>> consistently suggests that patches are ready for commit which  
>> others feel are not, then they won't earn that trust and be invited  
>> to become a committer.  Thus committership is not about deep  
>> technical abilities, but personal trust not to violate social  
>> contracts.  Erecting walls within the community of trust via ACLs  
>> doesn't seem productive.
>>
>> Doug
>
> Agreed.  Anyone want to reconsider their vote?
>

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