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From Dhruba Borthakur <dhr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: HEP proposal
Date Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:36:25 GMT
on a related note, since a HEP-initiator might not be a apache committer,
does it mean that it is the responsibility of the editor/champion to check
versions of the HEP proposal into svn?

thanks,
dhruba

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Aaron Kimball <aaron@cloudera.com> wrote:

> Eli,
>
> Great work. I like where this is going.
>
> Here's something that I think might be problematic:
>
> 3. Copyright/public domain -- Each HEP must either be explicitly
> labelled as placed in the public domain (see this HEP as an example).
>
>
> "must either be placed in the public domain, or..?" I assume the
> alternative
> is an open source copyright license? You should state what this is. PEP's
> alternative is "licensed under the Open Publication License."  (
> http://www.opencontent.org/openpub/) Is that your intent?
>
> Upon acceptance of a PEP, the PEP workflow states that it should be checked
> into svn. Are we planning to host accepted HEPs in the Hadoop svn? If so,
> we
> should specify that non-public-domain HEPs should be placed under a license
> listed on http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html. The Open Publication
> License isn't listed there. Nor are the GFDL and other documentation
> licenses (presumably not because they're not specifically allowed, but
> because Apache deals with code more than documentation). Note that
> CC/Attribution/Share-Alike is allowed. You may want to recommend that one?
>
> - Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Eli Collins <eli@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Doug Cutting <cutting@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 07/14/2010 10:46 AM, Eli Collins wrote:
> > >
> > >> 5. How the set of editors is selected?
> > >>>   "The editors are apointed and removed by the PMC informally,
> similar
> > to
> > >>>   how the Apache Board appoints shepherds to projects."
> > >>> This needs a reference. How does Apache Board appoints shepherds?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Good question, anyone know? Since it's informal I imagine shepherds
> > >> volunteer. The editors could be a subset of the PMC that either
> > >> volunteers or is rotated periodically.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Shepherds are assigned randomly by the chair 48 hours before each
> > meeting.
> > >  Perhaps a better analogy for an editor is an Incubator Champion?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion
> > >
> > > Champions are volunteers.  So, rather than assigning an editor, a HEP
> > might
> > > ask for one to volunteer.  Any PMC member might volunteer.
> > >
> >
> > That sounds reasonable. Having a PMC member volunteer will likely result
> in
> > someone who has more expertise in the area and will perhaps be more
> > responsive.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eli
> >
>



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