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From Eli Collins <...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: HEP proposal
Date Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:41:00 GMT
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Aaron Kimball <aaron@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Eli,
>
> Great work. I like where this is going.
>
> Here's something that I think might be problematic:
>
> 3. Copyright/public domain -- Each HEP must either be explicitly
> labelled as placed in the public domain (see this HEP as an example).
>
>
> "must either be placed in the public domain, or..?" I assume the alternative
> is an open source copyright license?

I was assuming HEPs would just be placed in the public domain, period.
Like design docs posted on jira they're just text posted to a mailing
list, not sure checking them into svn needs to require they have an
alternate license. Something I'm missing?

Thanks,
Eli



You should state what this is. PEP's
> alternative is "licensed under the Open Publication License."  (
> http://www.opencontent.org/openpub/) Is that your intent?
>
> Upon acceptance of a PEP, the PEP workflow states that it should be checked
> into svn. Are we planning to host accepted HEPs in the Hadoop svn? If so, we
> should specify that non-public-domain HEPs should be placed under a license
> listed on http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html. The Open Publication
> License isn't listed there. Nor are the GFDL and other documentation
> licenses (presumably not because they're not specifically allowed, but
> because Apache deals with code more than documentation). Note that
> CC/Attribution/Share-Alike is allowed. You may want to recommend that one?
>
> - Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Eli Collins <eli@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Doug Cutting <cutting@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On 07/14/2010 10:46 AM, Eli Collins wrote:
>> >
>> >> 5. How the set of editors is selected?
>> >>>   "The editors are apointed and removed by the PMC informally, similar
>> to
>> >>>   how the Apache Board appoints shepherds to projects."
>> >>> This needs a reference. How does Apache Board appoints shepherds?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Good question, anyone know? Since it's informal I imagine shepherds
>> >> volunteer. The editors could be a subset of the PMC that either
>> >> volunteers or is rotated periodically.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Shepherds are assigned randomly by the chair 48 hours before each
>> meeting.
>> >  Perhaps a better analogy for an editor is an Incubator Champion?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion
>> >
>> > Champions are volunteers.  So, rather than assigning an editor, a HEP
>> might
>> > ask for one to volunteer.  Any PMC member might volunteer.
>> >
>>
>> That sounds reasonable. Having a PMC member volunteer will likely result in
>> someone who has more expertise in the area and will perhaps be more
>> responsive.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eli
>>
>

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