Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 92960 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2010 23:06:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Feb 2010 23:06:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 29027 invoked by uid 500); 18 Feb 2010 23:06:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-general-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 28959 invoked by uid 500); 18 Feb 2010 23:06:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 28949 invoked by uid 99); 18 Feb 2010 23:06:32 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:06:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.4 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.125.92.27] (HELO qw-out-2122.google.com) (74.125.92.27) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:06:26 +0000 Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so110313qwi.35 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:06:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.112.2 with SMTP id u2mr5136828qcp.0.1266534364701; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:06:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B7D9503.4080205@apache.org> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:06:00 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Release plans From: Jeff Hammerbacher To: general@hadoop.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023544714c0e77794047fe8025d --0023544714c0e77794047fe8025d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > * Someone outside of Yahoo needs to step up and start addressing the > blockers to get 0.21 released. > Thanks for the update on the state of the world at Yahoo!, Owen--very helpful. I think the community will step up to knock down some of the blockers once we resolve what should be in the 0.21 release: the current branch, or a rebase on trunk. Do you/Yahoo! have a preference on that front? Rather than set a date, I think it is time to move to feature-based > releases. We'd need to vote on the feature set, but looking for security, > end-to-end avro, and symlinks seems like a reasonable list. That will avoid > the large rush of commits the last week of the deadline, which has been > counter productive. > Could someone give an example of a successful open source project that follows a feature-based release cycle? From the research I've done, the regular drumbeat of time-based releases seem to be more conducive to project health. Always interested to hear otherwise. The example Owen cites of "the large rush of commits the last week of the deadline" is certainly a good argument in favor of feature-based releases; I'm curious to hear more. Thanks, Jeff --0023544714c0e77794047fe8025d--