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From Hyunsik Choi <c0d3h...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Discussion about Hamburg (provisional name) open sourcing
Date Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:10:19 GMT

As you know, graph is a very useful data model. Matrix is the great
tool to store graph data and process them. Therefore, I think that
they will give many benefits each other. I agree with your opinion.

If we do so, how can we integrate them? What do you think about that?

Best regards,
Hyunsik Choi
Database & Information Systems Group, Korea University

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Edward J. Yoon <edwardyoon@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks for interesting information.
> With hindsight, IMO, the Hama project is a best to incubate Hamburg
> project. and, we can consider again when prepare to graduate from
> incubator.
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Taylor, Ronald C <ronald.taylor@pnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello Mr. Yoon,
>> I was delighted to hear of your proposed Hamburg project. I am a new
>> user of Hadoop (and Hbase). It looks like that I will be spending a
>> substantial amount of time working in this environment over the next
>> couple years, for both DOE bioinformatics work (my primary field) and
>> for work funded by DoD. I am enthusiastic about using Hadoop, Hive,
>> Hbase. Also am quite interested in the Mahout project.
>> While I cannot offer advice as to where to place your new project within
>> the Apache framework, I did want to offer my support. I believe that it
>> could well be of value in the coming years both to me, for my
>> bioinformatics research, and to other researchers here at PNNL working
>> in the areas of social networks (in our national security directorate)
>> and in a set of projects directed toward making the electrical grid
>> "smarter". I would not be able to contribute any code until I found
>> funding from current or new projects for my time. But if Hamburg moves
>> forward and can demonstrate its usefulness, that might be a real
>> possibility.
>> And in regards to funding for getting you some help: if you can find a
>> collaborator based at a university or non-profit, said collaborator
>> could well apply for a grant from the US National Science Foundation for
>> open source Hadoop-based development of graph computing / mining
>> algorithms. The NSF Computer and Information Science and Engineering
>> Directorate is awarding grants specifically devoted to the area of graph
>> mining (at least this year - hopefully will continue next year - anyway,
>> NSF gives money for algorithm and tool development in general - friendly
>> to that). I can't apply (at least not directly) - NSF does not like to
>> give money to other US government labs. But I would think you could find
>> someone in academia - perhaps someone already working with the Mahout
>> group. It would appear a natural fit. I presume there are a number of
>> people associated with the Apache org who know something about the NSF
>> and could offer further advice in that direction.
>> I look forward to hearing more about Hamburg, as it progresses.
>>  Best,
>>  Ron Taylor
>> ___________________________________________
>> Ronald Taylor, Ph.D.
>> Computational Biology & Bioinformatics Group
>> Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>> 902 Battelle Boulevard
>> P.O. Box 999, MSIN K7-90
>> Richland, WA  99352 USA
>> Office:  509-372-6568
>> Email: ronald.taylor@pnl.gov
>> www.pnl.gov
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: edward@udanax.org [mailto:edward@udanax.org] On Behalf Of Edward
>> J. Yoon
>> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:27 PM
>> To: general@hadoop.apache.org; hama-dev@incubator.apache.org;
>> hamburg-dev@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Paolo Castagna
>> Subject: Discussion about Hamburg (provisional name) open sourcing
>> Hello communities,
>> I'm the one of the Hamburg (provisional name), which is the graph
>> computing framework on Hadoop sponsor. Now we're working on the
>> perfection of our prototype project, and we'll propose the Hamburg
>> project soon.
>> - http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Hamburg, a wiki page
>> - http://throb.googlecode.com/, a prototype project
>> BTW, before we decide to propose, we need time just to consider where it
>> belongs to.
>> Since it aims to create a "general graph computing framework" on Hadoop,
>> I'd like to propose it as a sub-project of Hadoop. On the other hand,
>> since the matrix and graph are both in the domain of scientific
>> computing and BSP model could be used for matrix computation areas, I
>> think this project also can be integrated with the Hama project.
>> WDYT? Any advices are welcome.
>> --
>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
>> edwardyoon@apache.org
>> http://blog.udanax.org
> --
> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
> edwardyoon@apache.org
> http://blog.udanax.org

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