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From John Lilley <john.lil...@redpoint.net>
Subject RE: BlockMissingException reading HDFS file, but the block exists and fsck shows OK
Date Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:00:12 GMT
I've found that the error occurs right around a threshold where 20 tasks attempt to open 220
files each.  This is ... slightly over 4k total files open.
But that's the total number of open files across the 4-node cluster, and since the blocks
are evenly distributed, that amounts to 1k connections per node, which should not be a problem.
I've run tests wherein a single process on a single node can open over 8k files without issue.
I think that there is some other factor at work, perhaps one of:

1)      Timing (because the files were just written),

2)      Multi-node, multi-process access to the same set of files.

3)      Replication=1 having an influence.

Any ideas?  I am not seeing any errors in the datanode logs.

I will run some other tests with replication=3 to see what happens.


From: John Lilley [mailto:john.lilley@redpoint.net]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:41 AM
To: user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: RE: BlockMissingException reading HDFS file, but the block exists and fsck shows

None of the datanode logs have error messages.

From: Harsh J [mailto:harsh@cloudera.com]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:15 AM
To: <user@hadoop.apache.org<mailto:user@hadoop.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: BlockMissingException reading HDFS file, but the block exists and fsck shows

Can you check the log of the DN that is holding the specific block for any errors?
On Jan 27, 2014 8:37 PM, "John Lilley" <john.lilley@redpoint.net<mailto:john.lilley@redpoint.net>>
I am getting this perplexing error.  Our YARN application launches tasks that attempt to simultaneously
open a large number of files for merge.  There seems to be a load threshold in terms of number
of simultaneous tasks attempting to open a set of HDFS files on a four-node cluster.  The
threshold is hit at 32 tasks, each opening 450 files.  The threshold is not hit at 16 tasks,
each opening 250 files.

The files are stored in HDFS with replication=1.  I know that low replication leaves me open
to node-failure issues, but bear with me, nothing is actually failing.

I get this exception when attempting to open a file:
Could not obtain block: BP-1827033441-

However, the block is definitely *not* missing.  I can be running the following command continuously
while all of this is going on:
hdfs fsck /rpdm/tmp/ProjectTemp_34_1/TempFolder_6 -files -blocks -locations
Well before the tasks start it is showing good files all around, including:
/rpdm/tmp/ProjectTemp_34_1/TempFolder_6/data00001_000003.dld 144838614 bytes, 2 block(s):
0. BP-1827033441- len=134217728 repl=1 [<>]
1. BP-1827033441- len=10620886 repl=1 [<>]

My application logs also show that *some* tasks are able to open the files for which a missing
block is reported.
In case you suspect, the files are not being deleted.  The fsck continues to show good status
for these files well after the error report.
I've also checked to ensure that the files are not being held open by the creators of the

This leads me to believe that I've hit a an HDFS open-file limit of some kind.  We can compensate
pretty easily, by doing a two-phase merge that opens far fewer files simultaneously, keeping
a limited pool of open files, etc.  However, I would still like to know what limit is being
hit, and how to best predict that limit on various cluster configurations.


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