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From Hemanth Yamijala <yhema...@thoughtworks.com>
Subject Re: Find reducer for a key
Date Fri, 29 Mar 2013 03:47:13 GMT
Hi,

The way I understand your requirement - you have a file that contains a set
of keys. You want to read this file on every reducer and take only those
entries of the set, whose keys correspond to the current reducer.

If the above summary is correct, can I assume that you are potentially
reading the entire intermediate output key space on every reducer. Would
that even work (considering memory constraints, etc).

It seemed to me that your solution is implementing what the framework can
already do for you. That was the rationale behind my suggestion. Maybe you
should try and implement both approaches to see which one works better for
you.

Thanks
hemanth


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Alberto Cordioli <
cordioli.alberto@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, that is a possible solution.
> But since the MR job has another scope, the mappers already read other
> files (very large) and output tuples.
> You cannot control the number of mappers and hence the risk is that a
> lot of mappers will be created, and each of them read also the other
> file instead of a small number of reducers.
>
> Do you think that the solution I proposed is not so elegant or efficient?
>
> Alberto
>
> On 28 March 2013 13:12, Hemanth Yamijala <yhemanth@thoughtworks.com>
> wrote:
> > Hmm. That feels like a join. Can't you read the input file on the map
> side
> > and output those keys along with the original map output keys.. That way
> the
> > reducer would automatically get both together ?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Alberto Cordioli
> > <cordioli.alberto@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Hemanth,
> >>
> >> thanks for your reply.
> >> Yes, this partially answered to my question. I know how hash
> >> partitioner works and I guessed something similar.
> >> The piece that I missed was that mapred.task.partition returns the
> >> partition number of the reducer.
> >> So, putting al the pieces together I undersand that: for each key in
> >> the file I have to call the HashPartitioner.
> >> Then I have to compare the returned index with the one retrieved by
> >> Configuration.getInt("mapred.task.partition").
> >> If it is equal then such a key will be served by that reducer. Is this
> >> correct?
> >>
> >>
> >> To answer to your question:
> >> In a reduce side of a MR job, I want to load from file some data in a
> >> in-memory structure. Actually, I don't need to store the whole file
> >> for each reducer, but only the lines that are related to such keys a
> >> particular reducers will receive.
> >> So, my intention is to know the keys in the setup method to store only
> >> the needed lines.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alberto
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28 March 2013 11:01, Hemanth Yamijala <yhemanth@thoughtworks.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Not sure if I am answering your question, but this is the background.
> >> > Every
> >> > MapReduce job has a partitioner associated to it. The default
> >> > partitioner is
> >> > a HashPartitioner. You can as a user write your own partitioner as
> well
> >> > and
> >> > plug it into the job. The partitioner is responsible for splitting the
> >> > map
> >> > outputs key space among the reducers.
> >> >
> >> > So, to know which reducer a key will go to, it is basically the value
> >> > returned by the partitioner's getPartition method. For e.g this is the
> >> > code
> >> > in the HashPartitioner:
> >> >
> >> >   public int getPartition(K2 key, V2 value,
> >> >                           int numReduceTasks) {
> >> >     return (key.hashCode() & Integer.MAX_VALUE) % numReduceTasks;
> >> >   }
> >> >
> >> > mapred.task.partition is the key that defines the partition number of
> >> > this
> >> > reducer.
> >> >
> >> > I guess you can piece together these bits into what you'd want..
> >> > However, I
> >> > am interested in understanding why you want to know this ? Can you
> share
> >> > some info ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Hemanth
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Alberto Cordioli
> >> > <cordioli.alberto@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >> how can i know the keys that are associated to a particular reducer
> in
> >> >> the setup method?
> >> >> Let's assume in the setup method to read from a file where each line
> >> >> is a string that will become a key emitted from mappers.
> >> >> For each of these lines I would like to know if the string will be
a
> >> >> key associated with the current reducer or not.
> >> >>
> >> >> I read something about mapred.task.partition and mapred.task.id,
> but I
> >> >> didn't understand the usage.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Alberto
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Alberto Cordioli
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alberto Cordioli
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alberto Cordioli
>

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