Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-common-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4347DFDF for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12585 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2013 15:11:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-user-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 12414 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2013 15:11:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 12406 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jan 2013 15:11:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:11:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of hemanty@thoughtworks.com designates 64.18.0.20 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.0.20] (HELO exprod5og110.obsmtp.com) (64.18.0.20) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:11:26 +0000 Received: from mail-oa0-f71.google.com ([209.85.219.71]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5ob110.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUOw3CI7JkmurfBKdHFKKpYqVsu4KMwTp@postini.com; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:11:05 PST Received: by mail-oa0-f71.google.com with SMTP id n12so2253804oag.10 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:11:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=IfUQ3WbPn7RXL1DwHmMFMdi/eFUH2aaeK9fXo5ipiBQ=; b=Ru6c5HdPpkL1zCBtNY4SKN6YNLZt3zmQ6aNFJoJSLzcKQxxIjp2QAUq6pxGjDxB6XV d3lbbOeo1vQljRljk7tegZLk1ySUu6N9oWse5D7krZVEu01k5snsZ1DMlpOUTbgmwd0M zLlpY1WUADnbqKvgG9v4c1Ne+6p3XVhX3guMj7pXUeFEWpUxQOk+qseQk8fI4UFGDe4d ilQaYyFwGkx22MT+NwivEYE7DC74t1itEQuNzrV9RMiTJLMY7b7893v+d6XksNe8k2XO fQBVMbmzX1j6jxqcnH1sWs3vPTjWLfMN7j3foQ9we5PQ9x+SMwG7shtIQRg/sIHBNWFY Nu3Q== X-Received: by 10.182.31.33 with SMTP id x1mr45985478obh.29.1357657863851; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:11:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.31.33 with SMTP id x1mr45985474obh.29.1357657863728; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:11:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.5.136 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:11:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:41:03 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why the official Hadoop Documents are so messy? From: Hemanth Yamijala To: "user@hadoop.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93a19efb1ade204d2c85a01 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmWRT+QmWXJCYNrObCGIuXBe0dkNyyHIXjhN3jNnAbV0Jn+Z+90kVpOPiAyqC8j9O/PYC5ey+MDWFXXUnn0q6nkb5TD5X9R2FdhdjkSX0PpqqziNcrg4tDVWaDw6qkOJtX2ln3l9FOy5FTz04NPkRjNqD4g6A== X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --14dae93a19efb1ade204d2c85a01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I am not sure if your complaint is as much about the changing interfaces as it is about documentation. Please note that versions prior to 1.0 did not have stable interfaces as a major requirement. Not by choice, but because the focus was on seemingly more important functionality, stability, performance etc. Specifically with respect to the shell commands you refer to, they were going through the same evolution. From now, 1.x releases will not change these kind of public interfaces and Apis. I don't intend that documentation is unimportant. Just that this might be less of an issue now, post the 1.x release. As others have mentioned, it would be great if you can participate to improve documentation by filing or fixing jiras. Thanks Hemanth On Tuesday, January 8, 2013, javaLee wrote: > For example,look at the documents about HDFS shell guide: > > In 0.17, the prefix of HDFS shell is hadoop dfs: > http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r0.17.2/hdfs_shell.html > > In 0.19, the prefix of HDFS shell is hadoop fs: > http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r0.19.1/hdfs_shell.html#lsr > > In 1.0.4,the prefix of HDFS shell is hdfs dfs: > http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r1.0.4/file_system_shell.html#ls > > > Reading official Hadoop ducuments is such a suffering. > As a end user, I am confused... > --14dae93a19efb1ade204d2c85a01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I am not sure if your complaint is as much about the chan= ging interfaces as it is about documentation.

Please note that= versions prior to 1.0 did not have=A0stable interfaces as a major requirem= ent. Not by choice, but because the=A0focus was=A0on seemingly more importa= nt functionality, stability, performance etc.=A0Specifically with respect t= o the shell commands you refer to, they were going through the same evoluti= on. From now, 1.x releases will not change these kind of public interfaces = and Apis.

I don't intend that documentation is unimportant. J= ust that this might be less of an issue now, post the 1.x release.=A0= As others have mentioned, it would be great if you can participate t= o improve documentation by filing or fixing jiras.

Thanks
Hemanth

On Tuesday, Janu= ary 8, 2013, javaLee wrote:
For example,look at the documents about HDFS shell guide:

In 0.17, the prefix of HDFS shell is=A0hadoop df= s:

In 0.19, the prefix of HDFS shell is=A0hadoop fs:
http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r0.19.1/hdfs_shell.html#lsr<= span style=3D"line-height:15px;font-size:14px;font-family:'Courier New&= #39;,Courier,monospace">

In 1.0.4,the prefix of HDFS shell is=A0hdfs dfs:
=A0

Reading official Hadoop ducu= ments is such a suffering.
As a end user, I am confused...
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