Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-common-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91BC06691 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60353 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jul 2011 16:38:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-user-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 59949 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jul 2011 16:38:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact common-user-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list common-user@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 59941 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jul 2011 16:38:39 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:38:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of tdeutsch@us.ibm.com designates 32.97.110.152 as permitted sender) Received: from [32.97.110.152] (HELO e34.co.us.ibm.com) (32.97.110.152) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:38:30 +0000 Received: from d03relay03.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.228]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p6FGP17I019650 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:25:01 -0600 Received: from d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (d03av06.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.245]) by d03relay03.boulder.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id p6FGc9kn174260 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:38:09 -0600 Received: from d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id p6FGhdvf006370 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:43:39 -0600 Received: from d03nm130.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm130.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.174]) by d03av06.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id p6FGhcBa006348 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:43:38 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <4E1FC6C0.1000904@orkash.com>, To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Which release to use? X-KeepSent: 6D188153:0A80206E-872578CE:005B0586; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.2FP1 SHF149 July 17, 2009 From: Tom Deutsch Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:38:08 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM130/03/M/IBM(Release 8.5.1FP2|March 17, 2010) at 07/15/2011 10:38:09, Serialize complete at 07/15/2011 10:38:09 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005B6056882578CE_=" --=_alternative 005B6056882578CE_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" One quick clarification - IBM GA'd a product called BigInsights in 2Q. It faithfully uses the Hadoop stack and many related projects - but provides a number of extensions (that are compatible) based on customer requests. Not appropriate to say any more on this list, but the info on it is all publically available. ------------------------------------------------ Tom Deutsch Program Director CTO Office: Information Management Hadoop Product Manager / Customer Exec IBM 3565 Harbor Blvd Costa Mesa, CA 92626-1420 tdeutsch@us.ibm.com Michael Segel 07/15/2011 07:58 AM Please respond to common-user@hadoop.apache.org To cc Subject RE: Which release to use? Unfortunately the picture is a bit more confusing. Yahoo! is now HortonWorks. Their stated goal is to not have their own derivative release but to sell commercial support for the official Apache release. So those selling commercial support are: *Cloudera *HortonWorks *MapRTech *EMC (reselling MapRTech, but had announced their own) *IBM (not sure what they are selling exactly... still seems like smoke and mirrors...) *DataStax So while you can use the Apache release, it may not make sense for your organization to do so. (Said as I don the flame retardant suit...) The issue is that outside of HortonWorks which is stating that they will support the official Apache release, everything else is a derivative work of Apache's Hadoop. From what I have seen, Cloudera's release is the closest to the Apache release. Like I said, things are getting interesting. HTH --=_alternative 005B6056882578CE_=--