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From Michael Segel <michael_se...@hotmail.com>
Subject RE: Which release to use?
Date Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:50:10 GMT

Well that's CDH3. :-)

And yes, that's because up until the past month... other releases didn't exist w commercial
support.

Now there are more players as we look at the movement from leading edge to mainstream adopters.



> Subject: RE: Which release to use?
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:30:39 -0500
> From: Jeff.Schmitz@shell.com
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> 
> 
>  Most people are using CH3 - if you need some features from another
> distro use that - 
> 
> http://www.cloudera.com/hadoop/
> 
> I wonder if the Cloudera people realize that CH3 was a pretty happening
> punk band back in the day (if not they do now = )
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_3_%28band%29
> 
> cheers - 
> 
> 
> Jeffery Schmitz
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Segel [mailto:michael_segel@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:10 PM
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Which release to use?
> 
> 
> Tom,
> 
> I'm not sure that you're really honoring the purpose and approach of
> this list.
> 
> I mean on the one hand, you're not under any obligation to respond or
> participate on the list. And I can respect that. You're not in an S&D
> role so you're not 'customer facing' and not used to having to deal with
> these types of questions.
> 
> On the other, you're not being free with your information. So when this
> type of question comes up, it becomes very easy to discount IBM as a
> release or source provider for commercial support.
> 
> Without information, I'm afraid that I may have to make recommendations
> to my clients that may be out of date.
> 
> There is even some speculation from analysts that recent comments from
> IBM are more of an indication that IBM is still not ready for prime
> time. 
> 
> I'm sorry you're not in a position to detail your offering.
> 
> Maybe by September you might be ready and then talk to our CHUG?
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> 
> > To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Which release to use?
> > From: tdeutsch@us.ibm.com
> > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:29:55 -0700
> > 
> > Hi Rita - I want to make sure we are honoring the purpose/approach of
> this 
> > list. So you are welcome to ping me for information, but let's take
> this 
> > discussion off the list at this point.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Tom Deutsch
> > Program Director
> > CTO Office: Information Management
> > Hadoop Product Manager / Customer Exec
> > IBM
> > 3565 Harbor Blvd
> > Costa Mesa, CA 92626-1420
> > tdeutsch@us.ibm.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rita <rmorgan466@gmail.com> 
> > 07/16/2011 08:53 AM
> > Please respond to
> > common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> > 
> > 
> > To
> > common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> > cc
> > 
> > Subject
> > Re: Which release to use?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I am curious about the IBM product BigInishgts. Where can we download
> it? 
> > It
> > seems we have to register to download it?
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Tom Deutsch <tdeutsch@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > One quick clarification - IBM GA'd a product called BigInsights in
> 2Q. 
> > It
> > > faithfully uses the Hadoop stack and many related projects - but 
> > provides
> > > a number of extensions (that are compatible) based on customer
> requests.
> > > Not appropriate to say any more on this list, but the info on it is
> all
> > > publically available.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > Tom Deutsch
> > > Program Director
> > > CTO Office: Information Management
> > > Hadoop Product Manager / Customer Exec
> > > IBM
> > > 3565 Harbor Blvd
> > > Costa Mesa, CA 92626-1420
> > > tdeutsch@us.ibm.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael Segel <michael_segel@hotmail.com>
> > > 07/15/2011 07:58 AM
> > > Please respond to
> > > common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > > To
> > > <common-user@hadoop.apache.org>
> > > cc
> > >
> > > Subject
> > > RE: Which release to use?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately the picture is a bit more confusing.
> > >
> > > Yahoo! is now HortonWorks. Their stated goal is to not have their
> own
> > > derivative release but to sell commercial support for the official 
> > Apache
> > > release.
> > > So those selling commercial support are:
> > > *Cloudera
> > > *HortonWorks
> > > *MapRTech
> > > *EMC (reselling MapRTech, but had announced their own)
> > > *IBM (not sure what they are selling exactly... still seems like
> smoke 
> > and
> > > mirrors...)
> > > *DataStax
> > >
> > > So while you can use the Apache release, it may not make sense for
> your
> > > organization to do so. (Said as I don the flame retardant suit...)
> > >
> > > The issue is that outside of HortonWorks which is stating that they
> will
> > > support the official Apache release, everything else is a derivative
> 
> > work
> > > of Apache's Hadoop. From what I have seen, Cloudera's release is the
> > > closest to the Apache release.
> > >
> > > Like I said, things are getting interesting.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > --- Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.--
> > 
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