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From: Todd Lipcon <todd@cloudera.com>
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:29:54 -0700
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Subject: Re: Hadoop and WikiLeaks
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C'mon guys -- while this is of course an interesting debate, can we
please keep it off common-user?

-Todd

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxguru@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:13 PM, highpointe <highpointe3i@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>
>> >>> Does this copy text bother anyone else? Sure winning any award is gr=
eat
>> >>> but
>> >>> does hadoop want to be associated with "innovation" like WikiLeaks?
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>> [Only] through the free distribution of information, the guaranteed
>> integrity of said information and an aggressive system of checks and
>> balances can man truly be free and hold the winning card.
>>
>> So... =A0YES. Hadoop should be considered an innovation that promotes th=
e
>> free flow of information and a statistical whistle blower.
>>
>> Take off your damn aluminum hat. If it doesn't work for you, it will wor=
k
>> against you.
>>
>> On May 19, 2011, at 8:54 AM, James Seigel <james@tynt.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>> Does this copy text bother anyone else? Sure winning any award is
>> great
>> >>>> but
>> >>>> does hadoop want to be associated with "innovation" like WikiLeaks?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>>
>
> I do not know how to interpret your lame "aluminum hat" insult.
>
> As far as I am concerned WikiLeaks helped reveal classified US informatio=
n
> across the the internet. We can go back and forth about governments havin=
g
> too much secret/classified information and what the public should know,
> ...BUT... I believe that stealing and broadcasting secret documents is no=
t
> "innovation" and it surely put many lives at risk.
>
> I also believe that Wikileaks is tainted with Julian Assange's actions.
>
> *Dec 1 : The International Criminal Police Organisation or INTERPOL on
> Wednesday said it has issued look out notice for arrest of WikiLeaks' own=
er
> Julian Assange on suspicion of rape charges on the basis of the Swedish
> Government's arrest warrant.*
>
> http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-95693.html
>
> Those outside the US see wikileaks a different way they I do, but for the
> reasons I outlined above I would not want to be associated with them at a=
ll.
> Moreover, I believe there already is an aggressive system of checks and
> balances in the US (it could be better of course) and we do not need
> innovation like wikileaks offers to stay free, like open source the US is
> always changing and innovating.
>
> Wikileaks represents irresponsible use of technology that should be avoid=
ed.
>


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Todd Lipcon
Software Engineer, Cloudera