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From "Gabor Bota (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (HADOOP-15999) S3Guard: Better support for out-of-band operations
Date Fri, 01 Mar 2019 15:58:00 GMT

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Gabor Bota commented on HADOOP-15999:
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Sure, here are the stacktraces:  https://gist.github.com/bgaborg/4378fd13cf9ee8dab9475274a6dd251d

> S3Guard: Better support for out-of-band operations
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-15999
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15999
>             Project: Hadoop Common
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: fs/s3
>    Affects Versions: 3.1.0
>            Reporter: Sean Mackrory
>            Assignee: Gabor Bota
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: HADOOP-15999-007.patch, HADOOP-15999.001.patch, HADOOP-15999.002.patch,
HADOOP-15999.003.patch, HADOOP-15999.004.patch, HADOOP-15999.005.patch, HADOOP-15999.006.patch,
out-of-band-operations.patch
>
>
> S3Guard was initially done on the premise that a new MetadataStore would be the source
of truth, and that it wouldn't provide guarantees if updates were done without using S3Guard.
> I've been seeing increased demand for better support for scenarios where operations are
done on the data that can't reasonably be done with S3Guard involved. For example:
> * A file is deleted using S3Guard, and replaced by some other tool. S3Guard can't tell
the difference between the new file and delete / list inconsistency and continues to treat
the file as deleted.
> * An S3Guard-ed file is overwritten by a longer file by some other tool. When reading
the file, only the length of the original file is read.
> We could possibly have smarter behavior here by querying both S3 and the MetadataStore
(even in cases where we may currently only query the MetadataStore in getFileStatus) and use
whichever one has the higher modified time.
> This kills the performance boost we currently get in some workloads with the short-circuited
getFileStatus, but we could keep it with authoritative mode which should give a larger performance
boost. At least we'd get more correctness without authoritative mode and a clear declaration
of when we can make the assumptions required to short-circuit the process. If we can't consider
S3Guard the source of truth, we need to defer to S3 more.
> We'd need to be extra sure of any locality / time zone issues if we start relying on
mod_time more directly, but currently we're tracking the modification time as returned by
S3 anyway.



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