From common-dev-return-102389-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@hadoop.apache.org Wed Jun 19 22:20:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CE1318060F for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 00:20:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 4249 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jun 2019 22:20:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact common-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 4099 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jun 2019 22:20:26 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:20:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 6DAD21A4351; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:20:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.801 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.801 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5x68raI1nJs8; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-f67.google.com (mail-io1-f67.google.com [209.85.166.67]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id D0A005F4EB; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f67.google.com with SMTP id h6so444479ioh.3; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 15:20:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=eWhtnIJ98xpl/J5nW6lO71dlLiKhL0hPjKBV0ZxWzLs=; b=AgoOSgZEyE5cprl9CWAR3HRilpv2CKP3EEXQVizc6gQmUaIJumZKHyhDJS5GybeyVc U+NbgBRUl/grYvV1Mxa91D4cQvB7fL6P+1oEEm4kVmWlJWSdQeStdcYMcffmVg2L4Bbt W60lGvF3AMB6z3jGYOdvpg+6U6q9o7AusChxvzsBdFAqqbEp8wMDSqkNSAYJMh6qOyLG 3eshXVWAhFvBvcNyqMicTZL0zwVZ0iGFacsBk29TCHlKLzWWnjDSvct3+Go3+HVGuEmN 2VTsrjz1/vzp9oaeK6E1nkfZy0W2pX8HG+WgfBZkGU5egJaNZCrcFSbu2GZEO4xxkIJh w/OQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eWhtnIJ98xpl/J5nW6lO71dlLiKhL0hPjKBV0ZxWzLs=; b=mAXAUQVsUbVcAvubNTsIqYHJTuK59NWZ1rAysoZec+A9oPoxWOfCGTpt7bDlfBH7YY 8OGJdiiN/QvGj0psmpHiPFdF+vP4KuaZTmhUm8mCrbmE7RrRzXC0tjmS0RDXodlmXjhn gcOxzPASW0dnnZPDEuInHuszpF3NFrNK6rsFBIh0KhuaBhPFhsY3Ri+lf7yHm8Ow/SNH l2igjVExdQEZG9dXXcqkuMKeMJZa6E8gSAILgayxUlvdAU94vO/mGteg27TgLFyL+N9e Vt9+Q/Azuu9YcWac3IbDEtMZ7i3naRWp7J8GULPgaS/GsuucHS0Le4MQylNsqc4c0Iw4 8g/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX28Ze8mbmRXM2VSetiqiXop4vgWDh3DPO6xcqUY8RUk+9/njDw xHbaq6YIeiN1gXXKsCHIJL/ua9S6xMDtqAJA6bY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyvfG3i7tVhEPCzdy2VS3mUAhjZAzRZl37wW7ie+NZ8SmyEeZdDfsto9pG+1Ol9B8eTLnv+91W24e0M8tQmWXM= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8f86:: with SMTP id l6mr10569623iol.97.1560982820298; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 15:20:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Lars Francke Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 00:19:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] A unified and open Hadoop community sync up schedule? To: Sunil Govindan Cc: submarine-dev@hadoop.apache.org, Wangda Tan , Wei-Chiu Chuang , Anu Engineer , Yufei Gu , yarn-dev@hadoop.apache.org, Hdfs-dev , Hadoop Common , mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000812933058bb4a24f" --000000000000812933058bb4a24f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Just another thing you might be interested in: The Comdev project recently voted on creating an iot@apache (exact name and details still unclear) mailing list for cross-project collaboration. It's been on my list of things to do to propose the same for "bigdata" (I know the name sucks but i don't have a better one) as a single place for projects to coordinate between each other in public without having to subscribe to each others mailing lists. On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:03 PM Sunil Govindan wrote: > Hi Eric > > This community meeting will be starting from next week onwards > > - Sunil > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 9:14 PM Eric Badger > wrote: > > > Is there a YARN call today (in 16 minutes)? I saw it on the calendar > until > > a few minutes ago. > > > > Eric > > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 11:18 PM Wangda Tan wrote: > > > > > Thanks @Wei-Chiu Chuang . updated gdoc > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 7:35 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Wangda, > > > > > > > > I just like to make a correction -- the .ics calendar file says the > > first > > > > Wednesday for HDFS/cloud connector is in Mandarin whereas on the gdoc > > is > > > to > > > > host it on the third Wednesday. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 5:29 PM Wangda Tan > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > > > > > I just updated doc: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit# > > > > > with > > > > > dial-in information, notes, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Here's a calendar to subscribe: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking to give it a try from next week, any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Wangda > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:02 PM Wangda Tan > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > And please let me know if you can help with coordinate logistics > > > stuff, > > > > > > cross-checking, etc. Let's spend some time next week to get it > > > > finalized. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Wangda > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:00 PM Wangda Tan > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Folks, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Yufei: Agree with all your opinions. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Anu: it might be more efficient to use Google doc to track > meeting > > > > > >> minutes and we can put them together. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I just put the proposal to > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ > > > > > , > > > > > >> you can check if the proposal time works or not. If you agree, > we > > > can > > > > go > > > > > >> ahead to add meeting link, google doc, etc. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> If you want to have edit permissions, please drop a private > email > > to > > > > me > > > > > >> so I will add you. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> We still need more hosts, in each track, ideally we should have > at > > > > least > > > > > >> 3 hosts per track just like HDFS blocks :), please volunteer, so > > we > > > > can > > > > > >> have enough members to run the meeting. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Let's shoot by end of the next week, let's get all logistics > done > > > and > > > > > >> starting community sync up series from the week of Jun 25th. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > >> Wangda > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > >> Wangda > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:23 AM Anu Engineer < > > > aengineer@cloudera.com > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> For Ozone, we have started using the Wiki itself as the agenda > > and > > > > > after > > > > > >>> the meeting is over, we convert it into the meeting notes. > > > > > >>> Here is an example, the project owner can edit and maintain it, > > it > > > is > > > > > >>> like 10 mins work - and allows anyone to add stuff into the > > agenda > > > > too. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP/2019-06-10+Meeting+notes > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> --Anu > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:20 AM Yufei Gu < > flyrain000@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> +1 for this idea. Thanks Wangda for bringing this up. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Some comments to share: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> - Agenda needed to be posted ahead of meeting and welcome > any > > > > > >>>> interested > > > > > >>>> party to contribute to topics. > > > > > >>>> - We should encourage more people to attend. That's whole > > point > > > > of > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > >>>> meeting. > > > > > >>>> - Hopefully, this can mitigate the situation that some > > patches > > > > are > > > > > >>>> waiting for review for ever, which turns away new > > contributors. > > > > > >>>> - 30m per session sounds a little bit short, we can try it > > out > > > > and > > > > > >>>> see > > > > > >>>> if extension is needed. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Best, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Yufei > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> `This is not a contribution` > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:39 PM Wangda Tan < > wheeleast@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Hi Hadoop-devs, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > Previous we have regular YARN community sync up (1 hr, > > biweekly, > > > > but > > > > > >>>> not > > > > > >>>> > open to public). Recently because of changes in our > schedules, > > > > Less > > > > > >>>> folks > > > > > >>>> > showed up in the sync up for the last several months. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > I saw the K8s community did a pretty good job to run their > sig > > > > > >>>> meetings, > > > > > >>>> > there's regular meetings for different topics, notes, > agenda, > > > etc. > > > > > >>>> Such as > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/13mwye7nvrmV11q9_Eg77z-1w3X7Q1GTbslpml4J7F3A/edit > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > For Hadoop community, there are less such regular meetings > > open > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > >>>> > public except for Ozone project and offline meetups or > > > > > >>>> Bird-of-Features in > > > > > >>>> > Hadoop/DataWorks Summit. Recently we have a few folks joined > > > > > DataWorks > > > > > >>>> > Summit at Washington DC and Barcelona, and lots (50+) of > folks > > > > join > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > >>>> > Ozone/Hadoop/YARN BoF, ask (good) questions and roadmaps. I > > > think > > > > it > > > > > >>>> is > > > > > >>>> > important to open such conversations to the public and let > > more > > > > > >>>> > folk/companies join. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > Discussed a small group of community members and wrote a > short > > > > > >>>> proposal > > > > > >>>> > about the form, time and topic of the community sync up, > > thanks > > > > for > > > > > >>>> > everybody who have contributed to the proposal! Please feel > > free > > > > to > > > > > >>>> add > > > > > >>>> > your thoughts to the Proposal Google doc > > > > > >>>> > < > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit# > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > . > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > Especially for the following parts: > > > > > >>>> > - If you have interests to run any of the community > sync-ups, > > > > please > > > > > >>>> put > > > > > >>>> > your name to the table inside the proposal. We need more > > > > volunteers > > > > > >>>> to help > > > > > >>>> > run the sync-ups in different timezones. > > > > > >>>> > - Please add suggestions to the time, frequency and themes > and > > > > feel > > > > > >>>> free to > > > > > >>>> > share your thoughts if we should do sync ups for other > topics > > > > which > > > > > >>>> are not > > > > > >>>> > covered by the proposal. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > Link to the Proposal Google doc > > > > > >>>> > < > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit# > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > Thanks, > > > > > >>>> > Wangda Tan > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --000000000000812933058bb4a24f--