From common-dev-return-100493-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@hadoop.apache.org Mon Sep 3 07:21:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 25B38180647 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 07:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 7558 invoked by uid 500); 3 Sep 2018 05:21:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact common-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 7067 invoked by uid 99); 3 Sep 2018 05:21:26 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.137) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 05:21:26 +0000 Received: from mail-qk1-f173.google.com (mail-qk1-f173.google.com [209.85.222.173]) by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 8F0372079 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 05:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 130-v6so4953332qkd.10 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 22:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51C0w17g/G1hedo/9x4gdUmSbCgeSO2NlDJqfVFurEreZB9sczMe qzOl6lL8Ttk/1PvxaIzRxw5RTI/Qa9jVfgJBhKE= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:ed05:: with SMTP id c5-v6mt25258670qkg.208.1535952085018; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 22:21:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <71BE0739-74B6-4597-A535-BB683B2741AB@hortonworks.com> <1490350040693.14832@hortonworks.com> <3d45f3b6-087f-4424-459b-1793504c1194@apache.org> <69EDCC71-B262-4CC9-A914-5362AB3EF381@apache.org> <2c110250-8d7f-23d9-088a-53eca5a0375c@apache.org> <57042aaf-e8c8-4dc2-6a32-ba680c2d3b63@apache.org> <5403900D-8E21-4EBC-B289-AF4274C09B99@hortonworks.com> <31714ECB-3B17-43F5-8F90-B8A05B1585C7@hortonworks.com> In-Reply-To: <31714ECB-3B17-43F5-8F90-B8A05B1585C7@hortonworks.com> From: Vinayakumar B Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 10:51:14 +0530 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: HADOOP-14163 proposal for new hadoop.apache.org Cc: elek@apache.org, Hadoop Common , Hdfs-dev , mapreduce-dev@hadoop.apache.org, yarn-dev@hadoop.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006b8ade0574f0b605" --0000000000006b8ade0574f0b605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1, New site looks great. Just one nit in README '--refresh' flag for hugo server no longer available. -Vinay On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, 10:21 am Shashikant Banerjee, wrote: > +1 > > Thanks > Shashi > > =EF=BB=BFOn 9/3/18, 9:23 AM, "Mukul Kumar Singh" = wrote: > > +1, Thanks for working on this Marton. > > -Mukul > > On 03/09/18, 9:02 AM, "John Zhuge" wrote: > > +1 Like the new site. > > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 7:02 PM Weiwei Yang > wrote: > > > That's really nice, +1. > > > > -- > > Weiwei > > > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 4:36 AM Wangda Tan > wrote: > > > > > +1, thanks for working on this, Marton! > > > > > > Best, > > > Wangda > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 11:24 AM Arpit Agarwal < > aagarwal@hortonworks.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > Thanks for initiating this Marton. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/18, 1:07 AM, "Elek, Marton" wrote= : > > > > > > > > Bumping this thread at last time. > > > > > > > > I have the following proposal: > > > > > > > > 1. I will request a new git repository hadoop-site.git > and import > > the > > > > new site to there (which has exactly the same content a= s > the > > existing > > > > site). > > > > > > > > 2. I will ask infra to use the new repository as the > source of > > > > hadoop.apache.org > > > > > > > > 3. I will sync manually all of the changes in the next > two months > > > back > > > > to the svn site from the git (release announcements, ne= w > > committers) > > > > > > > > IN CASE OF ANY PROBLEM we can switch back to the svn > without any > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > If no-one objects within three days, I'll assume lazy > consensus and > > > > start with this plan. Please comment if you have > objections. > > > > > > > > Again: it allows immediate fallback at any time as svn > repo will be > > > > kept > > > > as is (+ I will keep it up-to-date in the next 2 months= ) > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marton > > > > > > > > > > > > On 06/21/2018 09:00 PM, Elek, Marton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much to bump up this thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About [2]: (Just for the clarification) the content o= f > the > > proposed > > > > > website is exactly the same as the old one. > > > > > > > > > > About [1]. I believe that the "mvn site" is perfect > for the > > > > > documentation but for website creation there are more > simple and > > > > > powerful tools. > > > > > > > > > > Hugo has more simple compared to jekyll. Just one > binary, without > > > > > dependencies, works everywhere (mac, linux, windows) > > > > > > > > > > Hugo has much more powerful compared to "mvn site". > Easier to > > > > create/use > > > > > more modern layout/theme, and easier to handle the > content (for > > > > example > > > > > new release announcements could be generated as part > of the > > release > > > > > process) > > > > > > > > > > I think it's very low risk to try out a new approach > for the site > > > > (and > > > > > easy to rollback in case of problems) > > > > > > > > > > Marton > > > > > > > > > > ps: I just updated the patch/preview site with the > recent > > releases: > > > > > > > > > > *************************** > > > > > * http://hadoop.anzix.net * > > > > > *************************** > > > > > > > > > > On 06/21/2018 01:27 AM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli wrote= : > > > > >> Got pinged about this offline. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks for keeping at it, Marton! > > > > >> > > > > >> I think there are two road-blocks here > > > > >> (1) Is the mechanism using which the website is > built good > > > enough > > > > - > > > > >> mvn-site / hugo etc? > > > > >> (2) Is the new website good enough? > > > > >> > > > > >> For (1), I just think we need more committer > attention and get > > > > >> feedback rapidly and get it in. > > > > >> > > > > >> For (2), how about we do it in a different way in th= e > interest > > of > > > > >> progress? > > > > >> - We create a hadoop.apache.org/new-site/ where > this new site > > > > goes. > > > > >> - We then modify the existing web-site to say that > there is a > > > new > > > > >> site/experience that folks can click on a link and > navigate to > > > > >> - As this new website matures and gets feedback & > fixes, we > > > > finally > > > > >> pull the plug at a later point of time when we think > we are good > > > to > > > > go. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thoughts? > > > > >> > > > > >> +Vinod > > > > >> > > > > >>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:10 AM, Elek, Marton < > elek@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Hi, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I would like to bump this thread up. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> TLDR; There is a proposed version of a new hadoop > site which is > > > > >>> available from here: > > > https://elek.github.io/hadoop-site-proposal/ > > > > and > > > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-14163 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Please let me know what you think about it. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Longer version: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> This thread started long time ago to use a more > modern hadoop > > > site: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Goals were: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 1. To make it easier to manage it (the release > entries could be > > > > >>> created by a script as part of the release process) > > > > >>> 2. To use a better look-and-feel > > > > >>> 3. Move it out from svn to git > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I proposed to: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 1. Move the existing site to git and generate it > with hugo > > (which > > > > is > > > > >>> a single, standalone binary) > > > > >>> 2. Move both the rendered and source branches to gi= t. > > > > >>> 3. (Create a jenkins job to generate the site > automatically) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> NOTE: this is just about forrest based > hadoop.apache.org, NOT > > > > about > > > > >>> the documentation which is generated by mvn-site (a= s > before) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I got multiple valuable feedback and I improved the > proposed > > site > > > > >>> according to the comments. Allen had some concerns > about the > > used > > > > >>> technologies (hugo vs. mvn-site) and I answered all > the > > questions > > > > why > > > > >>> I think mvn-site is the best for documentation and > hugo is best > > > > for > > > > >>> generating site. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I would like to finish this effort/jira: I would > like to start > > a > > > > >>> discussion about using this proposed version and > approach as a > > > new > > > > >>> site of Apache Hadoop. Please let me know what you > think. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks a lot, > > > > >>> Marton > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > common-dev-unsubscribe@hadoop.apache.org > > > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > > common-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > common-dev-unsubscribe@hadoop.apache.org > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > > > common-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > hdfs-dev-unsubscribe@hadoop.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > hdfs-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > hdfs-dev-unsubscribe@hadoop.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > hdfs-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Weiwei Yang > > > > > -- > John > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: hdfs-dev-unsubscribe@hadoop.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: hdfs-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org > > > > --0000000000006b8ade0574f0b605--