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From Shashikant Banerjee <sbaner...@hortonworks.com>
Subject Re: HADOOP-14163 proposal for new hadoop.apache.org
Date Mon, 03 Sep 2018 04:50:53 GMT
+1

Thanks
Shashi

´╗┐On 9/3/18, 9:23 AM, "Mukul Kumar Singh" <msingh@hortonworks.com> wrote:

    +1, Thanks for working on this Marton.
    
    -Mukul
    
    On 03/09/18, 9:02 AM, "John Zhuge" <john.zhuge@gmail.com> wrote:
    
        +1 Like the new site.
        
        On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 7:02 PM Weiwei Yang <abvclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
        
        > That's really nice, +1.
        >
        > --
        > Weiwei
        >
        > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 4:36 AM Wangda Tan <wheeleast@gmail.com> wrote:
        >
        > > +1, thanks for working on this, Marton!
        > >
        > > Best,
        > > Wangda
        > >
        > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 11:24 AM Arpit Agarwal <aagarwal@hortonworks.com
        > >
        > > wrote:
        > >
        > > > +1
        > > >
        > > > Thanks for initiating this Marton.
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > On 8/31/18, 1:07 AM, "Elek, Marton" <elek@apache.org> wrote:
        > > >
        > > >     Bumping this thread at last time.
        > > >
        > > >     I have the following proposal:
        > > >
        > > >     1. I will request a new git repository hadoop-site.git and import
        > the
        > > >     new site to there (which has exactly the same content as the
        > existing
        > > > site).
        > > >
        > > >     2. I will ask infra to use the new repository as the source of
        > > >     hadoop.apache.org
        > > >
        > > >     3. I will sync manually all of the changes in the next two months
        > > back
        > > >     to the svn site from the git (release announcements, new
        > committers)
        > > >
        > > >     IN CASE OF ANY PROBLEM we can switch back to the svn without any
        > > > problem.
        > > >
        > > >     If no-one objects within three days, I'll assume lazy consensus
and
        > > >     start with this plan. Please comment if you have objections.
        > > >
        > > >     Again: it allows immediate fallback at any time as svn repo will
be
        > > > kept
        > > >     as is (+ I will keep it up-to-date in the next 2 months)
        > > >
        > > >     Thanks,
        > > >     Marton
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >     On 06/21/2018 09:00 PM, Elek, Marton wrote:
        > > >     >
        > > >     > Thank you very much to bump up this thread.
        > > >     >
        > > >     >
        > > >     > About [2]: (Just for the clarification) the content of the
        > proposed
        > > >     > website is exactly the same as the old one.
        > > >     >
        > > >     > About [1]. I believe that the "mvn site" is perfect for the
        > > >     > documentation but for website creation there are more simple
and
        > > >     > powerful tools.
        > > >     >
        > > >     > Hugo has more simple compared to jekyll. Just one binary,
without
        > > >     > dependencies, works everywhere (mac, linux, windows)
        > > >     >
        > > >     > Hugo has much more powerful compared to "mvn site". Easier
to
        > > > create/use
        > > >     > more modern layout/theme, and easier to handle the content
(for
        > > > example
        > > >     > new release announcements could be generated as part of the
        > release
        > > >     > process)
        > > >     >
        > > >     > I think it's very low risk to try out a new approach for the
site
        > > > (and
        > > >     > easy to rollback in case of problems)
        > > >     >
        > > >     > Marton
        > > >     >
        > > >     > ps: I just updated the patch/preview site with the recent
        > releases:
        > > >     >
        > > >     > ***************************
        > > >     > * http://hadoop.anzix.net *
        > > >     > ***************************
        > > >     >
        > > >     > On 06/21/2018 01:27 AM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli wrote:
        > > >     >> Got pinged about this offline.
        > > >     >>
        > > >     >> Thanks for keeping at it, Marton!
        > > >     >>
        > > >     >> I think there are two road-blocks here
        > > >     >>   (1) Is the mechanism using which the website is built
good
        > > enough
        > > > -
        > > >     >> mvn-site / hugo etc?
        > > >     >>   (2) Is the new website good enough?
        > > >     >>
        > > >     >> For (1), I just think we need more committer attention
and get
        > > >     >> feedback rapidly and get it in.
        > > >     >>
        > > >     >> For (2), how about we do it in a different way in the
interest
        > of
        > > >     >> progress?
        > > >     >>   - We create a hadoop.apache.org/new-site/ where this
new site
        > > > goes.
        > > >     >>   - We then modify the existing web-site to say that there
is a
        > > new
        > > >     >> site/experience that folks can click on a link and navigate
to
        > > >     >>   - As this new website matures and gets feedback &
fixes, we
        > > > finally
        > > >     >> pull the plug at a later point of time when we think we
are good
        > > to
        > > > go.
        > > >     >>
        > > >     >> Thoughts?
        > > >     >>
        > > >     >> +Vinod
        > > >     >>
        > > >     >>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:10 AM, Elek, Marton <elek@apache.org>
        > > wrote:
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> Hi,
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> I would like to bump this thread up.
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> TLDR; There is a proposed version of a new hadoop
site which is
        > > >     >>> available from here:
        > > https://elek.github.io/hadoop-site-proposal/
        > > > and
        > > >     >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-14163
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> Please let me know what you think about it.
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> Longer version:
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> This thread started long time ago to use a more modern
hadoop
        > > site:
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> Goals were:
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> 1. To make it easier to manage it (the release entries
could be
        > > >     >>> created by a script as part of the release process)
        > > >     >>> 2. To use a better look-and-feel
        > > >     >>> 3. Move it out from svn to git
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> I proposed to:
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> 1. Move the existing site to git and generate it with
hugo
        > (which
        > > > is
        > > >     >>> a single, standalone binary)
        > > >     >>> 2. Move both the rendered and source branches to git.
        > > >     >>> 3. (Create a jenkins job to generate the site automatically)
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> NOTE: this is just about forrest based hadoop.apache.org,
NOT
        > > > about
        > > >     >>> the documentation which is generated by mvn-site (as
before)
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> I got multiple valuable feedback and I improved the
proposed
        > site
        > > >     >>> according to the comments. Allen had some concerns
about the
        > used
        > > >     >>> technologies (hugo vs. mvn-site) and I answered all
the
        > questions
        > > > why
        > > >     >>> I think mvn-site is the best for documentation and
hugo is best
        > > > for
        > > >     >>> generating site.
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> I would like to finish this effort/jira: I would like
to start
        > a
        > > >     >>> discussion about using this proposed version and approach
as a
        > > new
        > > >     >>> site of Apache Hadoop. Please let me know what you
think.
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>> Thanks a lot,
        > > >     >>> Marton
        > > >     >>>
        > > >     >>>
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        > Weiwei Yang
        >
        
        
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        John
        
    
    
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