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From Brahma Reddy Battula <bra...@apache.org>
Subject Re: HADOOP-14163 proposal for new hadoop.apache.org
Date Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:34:10 GMT
+1

It’s better to new version link in old version.


Brahma Reddy Battula

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Sangjin Lee <sjlee@apache.org> wrote:

> +1. Thanks for the work, Marton!
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:37 AM Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli <
> vinodkv@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Is there no way to host the new site and the old site concurrently? And
> > link back & forth?
> >
> > +Vinod
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 31, 2018, at 1:07 AM, Elek, Marton <elek@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bumping this thread at last time.
> > >
> > > I have the following proposal:
> > >
> > > 1. I will request a new git repository hadoop-site.git and import the
> > new site to there (which has exactly the same content as the existing
> site).
> > >
> > > 2. I will ask infra to use the new repository as the source of
> > hadoop.apache.org
> > >
> > > 3. I will sync manually all of the changes in the next two months back
> > to the svn site from the git (release announcements, new committers)
> > >
> > > IN CASE OF ANY PROBLEM we can switch back to the svn without any
> problem.
> > >
> > > If no-one objects within three days, I'll assume lazy consensus and
> > start with this plan. Please comment if you have objections.
> > >
> > > Again: it allows immediate fallback at any time as svn repo will be
> kept
> > as is (+ I will keep it up-to-date in the next 2 months)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marton
> > >
> > >
> > > On 06/21/2018 09:00 PM, Elek, Marton wrote:
> > >> Thank you very much to bump up this thread.
> > >> About [2]: (Just for the clarification) the content of the proposed
> > website is exactly the same as the old one.
> > >> About [1]. I believe that the "mvn site" is perfect for the
> > documentation but for website creation there are more simple and powerful
> > tools.
> > >> Hugo has more simple compared to jekyll. Just one binary, without
> > dependencies, works everywhere (mac, linux, windows)
> > >> Hugo has much more powerful compared to "mvn site". Easier to
> > create/use more modern layout/theme, and easier to handle the content
> (for
> > example new release announcements could be generated as part of the
> release
> > process)
> > >> I think it's very low risk to try out a new approach for the site (and
> > easy to rollback in case of problems)
> > >> Marton
> > >> ps: I just updated the patch/preview site with the recent releases:
> > >> ***************************
> > >> * http://hadoop.anzix.net *
> > >> ***************************
> > >> On 06/21/2018 01:27 AM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli wrote:
> > >>> Got pinged about this offline.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for keeping at it, Marton!
> > >>>
> > >>> I think there are two road-blocks here
> > >>>   (1) Is the mechanism using which the website is built good enough
-
> > mvn-site / hugo etc?
> > >>>   (2) Is the new website good enough?
> > >>>
> > >>> For (1), I just think we need more committer attention and get
> > feedback rapidly and get it in.
> > >>>
> > >>> For (2), how about we do it in a different way in the interest of
> > progress?
> > >>>   - We create a hadoop.apache.org/new-site/ where this new site
> goes.
> > >>>   - We then modify the existing web-site to say that there is a new
> > site/experience that folks can click on a link and navigate to
> > >>>   - As this new website matures and gets feedback & fixes, we finally
> > pull the plug at a later point of time when we think we are good to go.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thoughts?
> > >>>
> > >>> +Vinod
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:10 AM, Elek, Marton <elek@apache.org>
wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I would like to bump this thread up.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> TLDR; There is a proposed version of a new hadoop site which is
> > available from here: https://elek.github.io/hadoop-site-proposal/ and
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-14163
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please let me know what you think about it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Longer version:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This thread started long time ago to use a more modern hadoop site:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Goals were:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1. To make it easier to manage it (the release entries could be
> > created by a script as part of the release process)
> > >>>> 2. To use a better look-and-feel
> > >>>> 3. Move it out from svn to git
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I proposed to:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1. Move the existing site to git and generate it with hugo (which
is
> > a single, standalone binary)
> > >>>> 2. Move both the rendered and source branches to git.
> > >>>> 3. (Create a jenkins job to generate the site automatically)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> NOTE: this is just about forrest based hadoop.apache.org, NOT about
> > the documentation which is generated by mvn-site (as before)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I got multiple valuable feedback and I improved the proposed site
> > according to the comments. Allen had some concerns about the used
> > technologies (hugo vs. mvn-site) and I answered all the questions why I
> > think mvn-site is the best for documentation and hugo is best for
> > generating site.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I would like to finish this effort/jira: I would like to start
a
> > discussion about using this proposed version and approach as a new site
> of
> > Apache Hadoop. Please let me know what you think.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks a lot,
> > >>>> Marton
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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--Brahma Reddy Battula

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