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From Karthik Kambatla <ka...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: Policy on adding timeouts to tests
Date Tue, 15 Apr 2014 20:20:34 GMT
- hwx-hdfs-dev
+ hdfs-dev

Agree with all the points Chris makes.

I asked this question in the context of a fix that bumps up the timeout to
make the test pass on slower machines. If the timeout is not central to the
test, is the recommended approach to get rid of the timeout?



On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Chris Nauroth <cnauroth@hortonworks.com>wrote:

> +common-dev, hdfs-dev
>
> My understanding of the current situation is that we had a period where we
> tried to enforce adding timeouts on all new tests in patches, but it caused
> trouble, and now we're back to not requiring it.  Jenkins test-patch isn't
> checking for it anymore.
>
> I don't think patches are getting rejected for using timeouts though.
>
> The difficulty is that execution time is quite sensitive to the build
> environment.  (Consider top-of-the-line server hardware used in build
> infrastructure vs. a dev running a VirtualBox VM with 1 dedicated CPU, 2 GB
> RAM and slow virtualized disk.)  When we were enforcing timeouts, it was
> quite common to see follow-up patches tuning up the timeout settings to
> make tests work reliably in a greater variety of environments.  At that
> point, the benefit of using the timeout becomes questionable, because now
> the fast machine is running with the longer timeout too.
>
> Chris Nauroth
> Hortonworks
> http://hortonworks.com/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Karthik Kambatla <kasha@cloudera.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi folks
> >
> > Just wanted to check what our policy for adding timeouts to tests is. Do
> we
> > encourage/discourage using timeouts for tests? If we discourage using
> > timeouts for tests in general, are we okay with adding timeouts for a few
> > tests where we explicitly want the test to fail if it takes longer than a
> > particular amount of time?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Karthik
> >
>
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