Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 797491087B for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 52728 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jan 2014 02:10:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 52565 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jan 2014 02:10:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact common-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 52557 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jan 2014 02:10:07 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:10:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of acm@hortonworks.com designates 209.85.212.177 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.177] (HELO mail-wi0-f177.google.com) (209.85.212.177) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:10:01 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id m19so1302884wiv.16 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:09:41 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8n8sxrnfmN2rj5tufruiT5o2jFTFh/4mNu/8fendo0A=; b=QnWFI3x+hOMPLSouyI/rimH3dELccZ6dpKXs11Ns7+T6jvyhTK4W9OMoKvpBFSEWO9 vAIQnt4dWeY13ojcySGLrdxL74w588VtnlSEcWhjRq0J6PIVTLvsDbvpsRGNPXxGGkBe zZOSK0HgoxCP20flR9kbQCICpRD8NxUrtR4miAMd1saYeOWsfkv4kbXwNVNBoxoIgEwd pmB7avir95BYtMx+QxgSDIxmhhIvbnSPOy25WAaeWy1fqsVcG9xD9rgcD1iXgAXK+GFt 89U/RodMVnwWg0faTjpx2EU7dNSHIdtH45lUvWEzTcmfNJhgHiEGRUfZrVdMx6Fsi1wf sSfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlo1MNMv14RgW2hugaY3wTv4gdD3W84lvdOXiP+w+AZihDBla5LIGDQSUhS/d0RMHsZqIvoUJqcJx7L5AQ4Tu47KX/HFgTBKHTRI1NpxiVcENXzzTY= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.23.201 with SMTP id o9mr18542wjf.67.1390442981077; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.2.137 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:09:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7B9C5173-3793-4621-856F-66A224657434@hortonworks.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:09:40 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Logistics for releasing 2.4 From: Arun Murthy To: "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a956cf7cd7e04f099bb9f X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7b3a956cf7cd7e04f099bb9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sounds good, thanks. I'll ping you off-thread. Arun On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Andrew Wang wrote: > Hi Arun, thanks for the reply. I hope that I've come across as an earnest > and motivated contributor who wants to help make high-quality releases. > Volunteering myself as RM and pushing for a 2.4 was not a reflection on > your stewardship of 2.x so far. I know it's a lot of work. > > I didn't mean to suggest 12 releases per year. I was trying to couch my > terminology with "monthly-ish" and "regular cadence". I must have missed > the email thread where we decided on this, but 6-8 weeks per cycle is 100% > fine with me. I obviously don't want meaningless releases just for the sake > of releases, but I think HDFS-2832, HDFS-4949, and all the other > improvements in branch-2 add enough value that cutting something is not > meaningless. > > My impression of the two YARN JIRAs is that they're still roughly a month > from being prod-ready, which is why I figured they could wait 6 weeks for > the next 2.x. That was also not a slight on the YARN developers, it's that > I think we should follow through if we're serious about a regular release > cadence. As you allude to, we need to get used to slipping features to the > next release. Symlinks one such example that I've personally been involved > with, so I do understand. > > As an aside, I think this means that we should be more judicious about > branch-2 merges in the future, since a regular cadence means branch-2 > should stay in a releasable state. I hope we can avoid burdonsome code > divergence through "hard-disable" patches (e.g. symlinks) or pushing down > just refactors (sort of like HDFS-2832), but that remains to be seen. > > I can abandon the 2.3rc, and then release current branch-2 as 2.3. Would > > that be better? > > > > That'd be great. All I'm after here is a regular release cadence with good > integration testing, so if you're willing to RM it, awesome. As I stated > way back in the thread, feel free to email me if you think I can help with > the release process. > > Thanks, > Andrew > -- -- Arun C. Murthy Hortonworks Inc. http://hortonworks.com/ -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE NOTICE: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any printing, copying, dissemination, distribution, disclosure or forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete it from your system. Thank You. --047d7b3a956cf7cd7e04f099bb9f--