Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 301BA74B2 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86906 invoked by uid 500); 10 Oct 2011 19:40:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 86854 invoked by uid 500); 10 Oct 2011 19:40:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact common-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 86846 invoked by uid 99); 10 Oct 2011 19:40:33 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:40:33 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.216.176] (HELO mail-qy0-f176.google.com) (209.85.216.176) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:40:24 +0000 Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so6440267qyk.14 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.38.42 with SMTP id d10mr39179729pbk.50.1318275602827; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.10.152] (host1.hortonworks.com. [70.35.59.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h5sm70694698pbf.4.2011.10.10.12.40.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: kfs and hdfs From: Arun C Murthy In-Reply-To: <20111010190946.GA3234@linspire.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:39:57 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3512C44D-B081-4494-A46D-1EEA22458BFF@hortonworks.com> References: <4E914E30.5090607@yahoo.com.cn> <3798688F8784154192FDA3388F4C20810E6EEB2B@hq-ex-mb03.ad.navteq.com> <20111010190946.GA3234@linspire.com> To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Agree with Cos completely. As Apache Hadoop becomes more successful, we can expect more of these = marketing messages from all sorts of vendors on Apache lists. Of course it's preaching to the choir when it comes to Mike - I've seen = him make similar arguments against other vendors on various forums (LI = etc.)... so, thanks Mike! :) Arun On Oct 10, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > Mike, >=20 > I am not speaking for Owen in any way and appreciate your sense of = humor, but > the position he has expressed was (and hopefully remain) a stance of = these > lists: they aren't a marketing materials distribution channels. These = are dev. > mailing lists. >=20 > Cos >=20 > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 01:59PM, Segel, Mike wrote: >> Owen, >> Are you still a bit touchy over Mike Olson's rebuttal to your blog? = :-P >> (I kee-id, I kee-id) = >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Owen O'Malley [mailto:owen@hortonworks.com] >> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:14 PM >> To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org >> Subject: Re: kfs and hdfs >>=20 >> Ted, >> Please keep the marketing of closed-source insecure filesystems = such as MapR (and FAT32 *laugh*) off of the Apache Hadoop lists. >>=20 >> -- Owen >>=20