Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C4848738 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 40039 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2011 05:48:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 37927 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2011 05:48:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact common-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 37906 invoked by uid 99); 10 Aug 2011 05:48:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:48:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL,TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [76.96.27.212] (HELO qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.27.212) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:47:51 +0000 Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JVel1h0021HpZEsAEVnSy6; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:47:26 +0000 Received: from fs ([24.4.185.157]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JVnS1h00R3QAh8g8aVnSMF; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:47:27 +0000 Received: from mail.boudnik.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fs (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p7A5lSwn028756; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:47:28 -0700 Received: (from cos@localhost) by mail.boudnik.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p7A5lRJW028755; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:47:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.boudnik.org: cos set sender to cos@apache.org using -f Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:47:27 -0700 From: Konstantin Boudnik To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: Derby with Hadoop --Why? Message-ID: <20110810054727.GA28720@linspire.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: It's something of 'Cos User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Well, for once Hive uses Derby by default as its metastore. What make you think that Hadoop project is using derby? Also, this question seems to belong to common-dev@ (Cc'ed) raher then general@ (Bcc'ed) Cos On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:07AM, Saravana Kumar wrote: > Thanks For the Explanation but needs some clarity as well > > Do you mean to say all the Information required to run a map/reduce job is > effectively stored in derby. It means hadoop(not Ecosystem) uses Derby? > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Michael Segel wrote: > > > > > Derby? > > > > First a little history... > > Derby started out long ago as Cloudscape. Cloudscape was bought by > > Informix. Informix was bought by IBM. IBM didn't understand Cloudscape and > > decided to open source the project under APL. Hence Derby was born. > > > > Derby is an excellent lightweight 100% java database. So when you have a > > Java framework, using Derby makes a lot of sense. Derby is used to persist > > some environment information and I believe its used in part of some of the > > unit testing. > > > > Where Derby has been replaced by MySQL is when someone wanted a multi-user > > database and they were more comfortable with MySQL than they were with > > Derby. (Hint: Derby can be started as an embedded single user database, or > > as a multi-user database by changing its invocation at startup. ;-) > > > > So I would guess the initial reason to go with Derby was that its released > > under APL and there were no licensing issues. ;-) > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:17:35 +0530 > > > Subject: Derby with Hadoop --Why? > > > From: saravana.hadoop@gmail.com > > > To: general@hadoop.apache.org > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > What is the significance of Derby in Hadoop Project. > > > Why people are using Derby along with Hadoop > > > > > > Regards > > > Saravana Kumar.J > > > >