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From Harsh J <ha...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: Review Request: HADOOP-7328. Improve the SerializationFactory functions.
Date Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:37:12 GMT
Hey,

Agreed on the exception-throwing parts, I'll revamp and post that.

What you describe about the JVM can surely occur and I've pushed some
handling at the MapOutputBuffer level as well but in any case its
better to catch it as early as possible. Don't think guaranteeing that
the client is indeed packing things along with the job for the DC is
practically possible, but at least it is an improvement to where the
client follows a bit of general guidelines I think?

(P.s. Could you post views on the JIRA/RB so we can track discussions better?)

[Resending cause I missed lists earlier]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Sudharsan Sampath
<sudharsan.sampath@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just my thoughts...
>
> To me throwing a specific exception would be better. The checkSerializerSpecs attempts
to see if we can initialise a new instance of the serializer/deserializer from the jvm where
the job is submitted. How does it guarantee that the libs/jars from which these classes are
loaded are available for the jvm that executes the job or vice versa? Even if this methods
succeeds isn't there a chance then the original problem might occur due to the libs missing
from the actual jvm that executes the job?
>
> Sudhan S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harsh J [mailto:harsh@cloudera.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:42 AM
> To: Todd Lipcon
> Cc: hadoop-common; Harsh J; Matt Foley
> Subject: Re: Review Request: HADOOP-7328. Improve the SerializationFactory functions.
>
>
>
>> On 2011-06-13 18:23:35, Matt Foley wrote:
>> > Sorry if this is out of context, but is it really best to also return a null
here?  Shouldn't it check for null result from getSerialization(), then throw a (non-NPE)
exception?  Or do you prefer to do that check and throw at a higher level of the code?
>>
>> Todd Lipcon wrote:
>>     I thought about this while doing the review... my thinking was that our other
similar APIs do return null -eg CompressionCodecFactory.getCodecByName() returns null if the
specified codec isn't found. This API is also marked as LimitedPrivate Evolving so it shouldn't
be a problematic breaking change.
>>
>>     Maybe we should add a bit of javadoc saying "@returns null if no serializer
is known for the given class." ?
>
> The public method getSerialization() returns a null if it does not find an acceptor.
I think it is fair that a get{Serializer,Deserializer}() call do the same since they are specific
nature calls underneath?
>
> Or we could revamp the entire set if Exceptions are better to have over null returns
and null checks, but it ought to be consistent is what I think.
>
>
> - Harsh
>
>
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> On 2011-06-11 22:10:17, Harsh J wrote:
>>
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>> This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit:
>> https://reviews.apache.org/r/884/
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>>
>> (Updated 2011-06-11 22:10:17)
>>
>>
>> Review request for hadoop-common and Todd Lipcon.
>>
>>
>> Summary
>> -------
>>
>> Since getSerialization() can possibly return a null, it is only right that getSerializer()
and getDeserializer() usage functions do the same, instead of throwing up NPEs.
>>
>> Related issue to which this improvement is required:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-2584
>>
>>
>> This addresses bug HADOOP-7328.
>>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7328
>>
>>
>> Diffs
>> -----
>>
>>   src/java/org/apache/hadoop/io/serializer/SerializationFactory.java
>> dee314a
>>
>> Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/884/diff
>>
>>
>> Testing
>> -------
>>
>> Existing SequenceFile serialization factory tests pass. The change is merely to make
the functions return null instead of throwing an NPE within.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Harsh
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
Harsh J

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