Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 87440 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2010 11:43:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 31 Mar 2010 11:43:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 81992 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2010 11:43:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-common-dev-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 81865 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2010 11:43:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact common-dev-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list common-dev@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 81856 invoked by uid 99); 31 Mar 2010 11:43:28 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:43:28 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.2 required=10.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of awittenauer@linkedin.com designates 69.28.149.25 as permitted sender) Received: from [69.28.149.25] (HELO esv4-mav03.corp.linkedin.com) (69.28.149.25) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:43:23 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: s=prod; d=linkedin.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-AV:Received:Received:Received:From:To:Subject: Thread-Topic:Thread-Index:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: Accept-Language:Content-Language:X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:user-agent:Content-Type:Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version:Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime; b=tG/Pv63beUaK9MnBSRARiYJLMtz1lNSmBMe9sVWISHjd8cKkGn8AhqZG 0797ayzYgVrUUSJYS4I/tW9MMPIQx0vKq7hQdzJELTsZpCdm1sWAnW3MN DGhVQJLDAAbJttf; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=linkedin.com; i=awittenauer@linkedin.com; q=dns/txt; s=proddkim; t=1270035803; x=1301571803; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Allen=20Wittenauer=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20[DISCUSSION]=20Release=20process|Date: =20Wed,=2031=20Mar=202010=2011:42:49=20+0000|Message-ID: =20|To:=20"common -dev@hadoop.apache.org"=20 |MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=20quoted- printable|Content-ID:=20<354df825-cd6a-4d49-9ec8-49bc065d 7455>|In-Reply-To:=20<2B2FD090-DC7C-48A0-9569-994090C7B3F D@apache.org>; bh=BZCGkCMx62IhG0Kg9JbbSZTEFBV8mqT0Tsg3tYcd7rI=; b=GNyQwVKvMhhLNTVHR6y+08dJ8K0xhnmqP3ySTStuSwwMYX2Yfo4otusN 02LsunVLr0TA9Teq2zwfu38fMvMLhq+nbGfJS9sLtmY3T6h/6cRGPSBQ6 NF4xZzqixnnf4fM; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,341,1267430400"; d="scan'208";a="11687901" Received: from esv4-exctest.linkedin.biz ([172.18.46.60]) by CORP-MAIL.linkedin.biz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 31 Mar 2010 04:42:52 -0700 Received: from ESV4-CAS02.linkedin.biz (172.18.46.142) by esv4-exctest.linkedin.biz (172.18.46.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.0.682.1; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 04:42:52 -0700 Received: from ESV4-EXC01.linkedin.biz ([fe80::d7c:dc04:aea1:97d7]) by esv4-cas02.linkedin.biz ([172.18.46.142]) with mapi; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 04:42:51 -0700 From: Allen Wittenauer To: "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org" Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Release process Thread-Topic: [DISCUSSION] Release process Thread-Index: AcrEWa+RpVLt5MvFSP2+NdLg+MwrFQHJ3UZfABJ7twAABjligAEsLSQAAAnaUYAAAsy/gA== Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:42:49 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2B2FD090-DC7C-48A0-9569-994090C7B3FD@apache.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.4.0.100208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <354df825-cd6a-4d49-9ec8-49bc065d7455> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2010 11:42:52.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C053740:01CAD0C7] On 3/30/10 8:22 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: >=20 > On Mar 30, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: >=20 >> Another release we might consider is 1.0 based on 0.20. >=20 > It is tempting and I think that 0.20 is *really* our 1.0, but I think > re-labeling a release a year after it came out would be confusing. By "our" do you mean Yahoo!'s or Apache's? The fact that there are a *ton* of admin tool changes/fixes/additions in the Yahoo! Distribution of 0.20 (and quite a few in CDH) should be the big hint that Apache 0.20 is *not* 1.0.=20 I think it would do the PMC well to actually play with Apache 0.20.2 and realize how much is missing vs. their in-house distributions.