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From Steve Loughran <ste...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] Release process
Date Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:23:38 GMT
Stack wrote:
> Getting a release out is critical.  Otherwise, IMO, the project is
> dead but for the stiffening.
> 
> Thanks Tom for stepping up to play the RM role for a 0.21.
> 
> Regarding Steve's call for what we can offer Tom to help along the
> release, the little flea hbase can test its use case on 0.21.0
> candidates and we can probably take on a few of the HDFS blockers.  I
> also like Steve's suggestion of a council to figure what makes the
> 0.21 cut (We're talking security and avro in 0.22, not 0.21 right?).
> 
> Allen in his note raises another issue beyond the release blockage
> that I believe warrants further discussion.  The "forks" maintained by
> the big contributors currently cloud (undermine?) the Apache release
> and the amount and pain involved patch wrangling is a friction on
> forward progress especially as versions deviate further.  Perhaps this
> state is inevitable when the stakes are this high, where there are new
> releases rolled out across thousands of machines carrying biz-critical
> data that cannot fail.  Having the Apache project release reliably on
> a schedule should help especially if posted fixes get reviewed and
> committed.  Formally adopting the stable/unstable labeling could help
> too.

The ASF never mandates a release schedule; can be too hard to meet. The 
main thing is "making progress" and having some plan to release updated 
versions. But if you don't have frequent releases, the pressure to 
backport increases.

-steve

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