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From "Jonathan Gray (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (HADOOP-5170) Set max map/reduce tasks on a per-job basis, either per-node or cluster-wide
Date Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:33:59 GMT

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Jonathan Gray commented on HADOOP-5170:
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+1 on Chris' thoughts above.

Ideally we'd like to have as much control as possible (per job, max concurrent tasks across
cluster and/or per node).  Either of these would satisfy my requirements, so if one fits more
easily into the existing scheduler/jobtracker, I think we should go after that approach.

The approach of Vinod does not help in my base use case because I want to run avg 1 cpu-bound
task per node (cluster max = nodes) but my network latency bound jobs I'd like to run 5 or
more per node (cluster max = 5 * nodes).  We are using threading in some places but it's significant
complexity in many already complex MapReduce jobs.

> Set max map/reduce tasks on a per-job basis, either per-node or cluster-wide
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-5170
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-5170
>             Project: Hadoop Core
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: mapred
>            Reporter: Jonathan Gray
>
> There are a number of use cases for being able to do this.  The focus of this jira should
be on finding what would be the simplest to implement that would satisfy the most use cases.
> This could be implemented as either a per-node maximum or a cluster-wide maximum.  It
seems that for most uses, the former is preferable however either would fulfill the requirements
of this jira.
> Some of the reasons for allowing this feature (mine and from others on list):
> - I have some very large CPU-bound jobs.  I am forced to keep the max map/node limit
at 2 or 3 (on a 4 core node) so that I do not starve the Datanode and Regionserver.  I have
other jobs that are network latency bound and would like to be able to run high numbers of
them concurrently on each node.  Though I can thread some jobs, there are some use cases that
are difficult to thread (scanning from hbase) and there's significant complexity added to
the job rather than letting hadoop handle the concurrency.
> - Poor assignment of tasks to nodes creates some situations where you have multiple reducers
on a single node but other nodes that received none.  A limit of 1 reducer per node for that
job would prevent that from happening. (only works with per-node limit)
> - Poor mans MR job virtualization.  Since we can limit a jobs resources, this gives much
more control in allocating and dividing up resources of a large cluster.  (makes most sense
w/ cluster-wide limit)

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