Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-hadoop-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 39183 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2007 06:16:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Sep 2007 06:16:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 67260 invoked by uid 500); 8 Sep 2007 06:15:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-hadoop-dev-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 67233 invoked by uid 500); 8 Sep 2007 06:15:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact hadoop-dev-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: hadoop-dev@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list hadoop-dev@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 67224 invoked by uid 99); 8 Sep 2007 06:15:53 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:15:53 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [216.145.54.171] (HELO mrout1.yahoo.com) (216.145.54.171) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:17:11 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.199] (snvvpn2-10-72-76-c55.corp.yahoo.com [10.72.76.55]) by mrout1.yahoo.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/y.out) with ESMTP id l886FIrU062301 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 23:15:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=serpent; d=yahoo-inc.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=sZvnGTr2zRx2ihVTZj+K31OpgrpGicFqw/MHER58Ms69XSgU2KB1/8Snog345B8I Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <46E16332.3020706@gmail.com> References: <20070906124523.2747.37225@eos.apache.org> <46E04219.8020709@apache.org> <46E04788.4030009@yahoo-inc.com> <46E04971.2010504@apache.org> <46E04A68.1080308@yahoo-inc.com> <46E04EFD.2060900@apache.org> <46E16332.3020706@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5F38CE14-8C46-4E53-B630-232759B12251@yahoo-inc.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Baldeschwieler Subject: Re: [Lucene-hadoop Wiki] Update of "FAQ" by DevarajDas Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 23:14:53 -0700 To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I think we should also add an available RAM variable and then do a reasonable job of deriving a bunch of the other variables in these settings from that (we may need one for task trackers, one for namenodes and so on. A lot of the memory related default settings make no sense on the boxes we use. What RAM size should we assume is a reasonable default? 2GB? 1GB? We are currently standardizing on 8. On Sep 7, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Enis Soztutar wrote: > Hadoop has been used in quite varying cluster sizes (in the range > 1-2000), so am strongly in favor of as much automatic configuration as > possible. > > Doug Cutting wrote: > > Raghu Angadi wrote: > >> Right now Namenode does not know about the cluster size before > >> starting IPC server. > > > > Sounds like perhaps we should make the handler count, queue size, > etc. > > dynamically adjustable, e.g., by adding Server methods for > > setHandlerCount(), setQueueSize(), etc. There's been talk of trying > > to automatically adjust these within Server.java, based on load, and > > that would be better yet, but short of that, we might adjust them > > heuristically based on cluster size. > > > > The urgent thing, since we expect the best settings for large > clusters > > to change, is to make it so that folks don't need to adjust these > > manually, even if the automation is an ill-understood heuristic. I > > think we can easily get some workable heuristics into 0.15, but we > > might not get be able to implement async responses or figure out how > > to adjust it automatically in Server.java or whatever in that > > timeframe. Perhaps we should just change the defaults to be big > > enough for 2000 nodes, but that seems like too big of a hammer. > > > > Doug > > >