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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:27:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Raghu Angadi (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org>
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Subject: [jira] Commented: (HADOOP-1134) Block level CRCs in HDFS
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    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-1134?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12482541 ] 

Raghu Angadi commented on HADOOP-1134:
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I do agree that separate checksum file looks 'cleaner'. Also, when we combine 'Version' upgrade ( HADOOP-702 ) and offline CRC upgrade, datanodes should be able to store each block twice if we want to have inline CRCs. This might be unacceptable in practice.

> It's quite clear that doing inline checksums makes the upgrade process a lot harder.
I am not sure if inline CRCs increases upgrade complexity. Surely upgrade will take less time.. but it would be more like 1 hour instead of 2-3 hours, which is not a big issue.


> Block level CRCs in HDFS
> ------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-1134
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-1134
>             Project: Hadoop
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: dfs
>            Reporter: Raghu Angadi
>         Assigned To: Raghu Angadi
>
> Currently CRCs are handled at FileSystem level and are transparent to core HDFS. See recent improvement HADOOP-928 ( that can add checksums to a given filesystem ) regd more about it. Though this served us well there a few disadvantages :
> 1) This doubles namespace in HDFS ( or other filesystem implementations ). In many cases, it nearly doubles the number of blocks. Taking namenode out of CRCs would nearly double namespace performance both in terms of CPU and memory.
> 2) Since CRCs are transparent to HDFS, it can not actively detect corrupted blocks. With block level CRCs, Datanode can periodically verify the checksums and report corruptions to namnode such that name replicas can be created.
> We propose to have CRCs maintained for all HDFS data in much the same way as in GFS. I will update the jira with detailed requirements and design. This will include same guarantees provided by current implementation and will include a upgrade of current data.
>  

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