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From "Sameer Paranjpye (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (HADOOP-1134) Block level CRCs in HDFS
Date Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:55:25 GMT

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Sameer Paranjpye commented on HADOOP-1134:
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> That's not the universal experience. Many if not most of the checksum errors I've heard
of traced back to memory errors. Someone recently reported a non-reproducible 
> checksum error from the InMemoryFileSystem, didn't they?

Perhaps, but it is contrary to the published error rates for disk and RAM. Also, people tend
to report errors that bring their jobs to a halt. When disk errors occur in HDFS, jobs don't
fail, corrupt blocks get deleted and replaced with good ones, so they don't get noticed as
much. The reports in this case are biased IMO, we'd get a much better picture by going through
logs. 

> Block level CRCs in HDFS
> ------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-1134
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-1134
>             Project: Hadoop
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: dfs
>            Reporter: Raghu Angadi
>         Assigned To: Raghu Angadi
>
> Currently CRCs are handled at FileSystem level and are transparent to core HDFS. See
recent improvement HADOOP-928 ( that can add checksums to a given filesystem ) regd more about
it. Though this served us well there a few disadvantages :
> 1) This doubles namespace in HDFS ( or other filesystem implementations ). In many cases,
it nearly doubles the number of blocks. Taking namenode out of CRCs would nearly double namespace
performance both in terms of CPU and memory.
> 2) Since CRCs are transparent to HDFS, it can not actively detect corrupted blocks. With
block level CRCs, Datanode can periodically verify the checksums and report corruptions to
namnode such that name replicas can be created.
> We propose to have CRCs maintained for all HDFS data in much the same way as in GFS.
I will update the jira with detailed requirements and design. This will include same guarantees
provided by current implementation and will include a upgrade of current data.
>  

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