Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-gump-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-gump-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C10F2D8AC for ; Mon, 20 May 2013 01:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60297 invoked by uid 500); 20 May 2013 01:07:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-gump-general-archive@gump.apache.org Received: (qmail 60216 invoked by uid 500); 20 May 2013 01:07:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@gump.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Gump code and data" Reply-To: "Gump code and data" Delivered-To: mailing list general@gump.apache.org Received: (qmail 60203 invoked by uid 99); 20 May 2013 01:07:13 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 May 2013 01:07:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of mgainty@hotmail.com designates 65.55.116.108 as permitted sender) Received: from [65.55.116.108] (HELO blu0-omc3-s33.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.116.108) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 May 2013 01:07:05 +0000 Received: from BLU172-W20 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s33.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 19 May 2013 18:06:44 -0700 X-TMN: [7rS7eFhEpim0ULw7HumNhCfbd8zbggtd] X-Originating-Email: [mgainty@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7f6f2682-4050-421d-942f-553be5b7a296_" From: Martin Gainty To: Gump code and data Subject: RE: Where to go with Gump? Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 21:06:44 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <87li7b6lks.fsf@v35516.1blu.de> References: <87li7b6lks.fsf@v35516.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2013 01:06:44.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B69DC80:01CE54F6] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --_7f6f2682-4050-421d-942f-553be5b7a296_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stephan If gump does go fubar then we would need to find an alternate means to supp= ly build.sysclasspath to quote Ant folk "In Ant's case Gump set's Ant's build.sysclasspath to only and manag= es the system classpath" the fact that it builds APR (which is a dependency of Apache HTTPD) seems t= o justify its existence this little snippet from the gump website gives me the willies It is written in Python=20 *which means we would need more than a passing familiarity with makefiles= =2C gcc and ld * =20 2 years ago i worked at a site which did alot of python programming and th= e 'object' file was compiled as pyc (python component) i remember python version checking was non-existent and if you had the wron= g version of pyc on your path it would take you days before you would be able to =20 find the correct version source find the gcc compiler that would compile it link it to correct pyc format and then stick it on your path Am i the only advocate to converting gump to java? Martin=20 ______________________________________________=20 Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de d=E9ni et de confidentialit= =E9 Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaeng= er sein=2C so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiter= leitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient l= ediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bin= dungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen w= ir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut =EAtre privil=E9gi=E9. Si vous n'=EAtes= pas le destinataire pr=E9vu=2C nous te demandons avec bont=E9 que pour sat= isfaire informez l'exp=E9diteur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autoris=E9e= ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert =E0 l'information seule= ment et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet l=E9galement obligatoire. =C9tant d= onn=E9 que les email peuvent facilement =EAtre sujets =E0 la manipulation= =2C nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilit=E9 pour le contenu fourni= . =20 > From: bodewig@apache.org > To: general@gump.apache.org > Subject: Where to go with Gump? > Date: Sun=2C 19 May 2013 17:22:43 +0200 >=20 > Hi=2C >=20 > since about christmas last year we had reliability problems with the mvn > repo proxy. Those problems seem to have gone by now. I've been told > Maven Central is using a CDN and some of the nodes had some problems for > a while=2C so this may explain why it started to work again. Anyway. >=20 > In January I turned off nagging and nobody ever asked why the nag mails > stopped. I saw Sebb mention it on Commons' dev list but not because > anybody had asked for it. Even the Ant folks (including myself) who > used to watch Gump closely didn't recognize the build had been failing > for a week or two. >=20 > So before I re-enable nagging=2C I wonder whether there really still is > any interest in the service Gump provides. And assuming some of the > projecs are still interested whether we should prune those projects that > aren't. >=20 > I don't really know for sure but over the past years the major feedback > I have received when I tried to engage with projects who's builds were > failing was "please turn off the nagging" - so maybe this colors my > perceiption. >=20 > Any opinions? >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Stefan >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe=2C e-mail: general-unsubscribe@gump.apache.org > For additional commands=2C e-mail: general-help@gump.apache.org >=20 = --_7f6f2682-4050-421d-942f-553be5b7a296_--