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From Geir Magnusson Jr <>
Subject Re: hibernate3 + EJB stuff?
Date Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:48:14 GMT
Makes sense.

The problem w/ hibernate, of course, is the license :) (IMO)

I'm interested to see what you think when you can play with OpenJPA...


Steve Loughran wrote:
> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>> why not use the upcoming OpenJPA?  Apache licensed, same API :)
> good q.
> This is the code to the forthcoming 2nd edition of "Java dev with Ant", 
> and I chose the jboss/hibernate path because it is the market leader. I 
> do take the time out to say bad things about the JBoss classloader, 
> because its silly. Do you know they fixed it in 4.02 to be sensible, and 
> then on 4.0.3 reverted it to broken for backwards compat? And in the 
> install dialog it says something unimportant like "use common 
> classloader for performance" next to the check box, instead of "use 
> stupid brittle classloader that wont let two webapps run different 
> versions of log4j side-by-side?".
> I actually run hibernate and ejb3 persistence API side-by-side, and came 
> out more in favour of the hibernate implementation than their ejb3 layer 
> on top. Because it had quirks (like exceptions not matching the spec), 
> and I could assume different impls. would have different quirks. If you 
> stick w/ pure hibernate you get consistent behaviour. Non portable, 
> true, but consistent.
> so the only issue is : how much do you value portability? Especially 
> when there is nothing to stop you embedding hibernate in anything, 
> client or server...
> -steve
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