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From Geir Magnusson Jr <>
Subject Re: failure notice
Date Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:50:09 GMT

On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:32 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:

> At 02:58 PM 11/30/2004, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>> On Nov 30, 2004, at 8:32 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>>> At 03:39 AM 11/30/2004, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>> some lists choose to moderate...
>>> Hello Geir,
>>> We currently don't but may switch back to moderated list. Sorry 
>>> about the hassle.
>>>> anyway, the interesting thing is the problem I have fixing Velocity 
>>>> so Gump is happy ...
>>> Niclas Hedhman informed us of this problem. There was a conscious 
>>> choice to remove the old RollingAppender and replace with something 
>>> better.
>> That's all well and good, but why not deprecate for a version?
> Because the old RollingAppender has bugs. Consequently, we don't want 
> to make it available to Mrs. Piggy in the next version of log4j 1.3.

Mrs. Piggy?

Can you make o.a.l.RFA be an adapter for o.a.l.rolling.RFA?

>> But what gump has done here is given us early warning that if one of 
>> us doesn't do something, Velocity users [and every other log4j user 
>> using RollingFileAppender] are *screwed* if they try to upgrade a 
>> minor version number of log4j, to 1.3.
>> What I want is that existing velocity users can upgrade to log4j 1.3 
>> w/o hassle.
> Log4j 1.3 is currently in alpha. Ignore 1.3 until it goes RC. When it 
> goes RC, switch to 1.3. It should be trivial to do so.

It is, but requires a code change.  For people with code in production, 
asking to do a code change to upgrade log4j is asking a lot.

>> But forgetting Gump, in general, what do you want me and other users 
>> to do?  have to modify our code to update to 1.3?
> Wait, don't do anything for the time being. Velocity ships with a copy 
> log4j doesn't it?

no, we just tell people that we have a logger that writes to it.

>  Continue to ship log4j 1.2.9 until you decide to switch to 1.3, for 
> example when it goes RC. Switching velocity to use log4j 1.3 instead 
> of 1.2 should be pretty easy to do.
> How does that sound?

We don't ship log4j.  We support having velocity log to a whole bunch 
of things, log4j being one of them (and probably the most popular...)


>> geir
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> Ceki Gülcü
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