Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-gump-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 55333 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2004 02:15:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Oct 2004 02:15:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 51804 invoked by uid 500); 11 Oct 2004 02:15:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-gump-general-archive@gump.apache.org Received: (qmail 51744 invoked by uid 500); 11 Oct 2004 02:15:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@gump.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Gump code and data" Reply-To: "Gump code and data" Delivered-To: mailing list general@gump.apache.org Received: (qmail 51730 invoked by uid 99); 11 Oct 2004 02:15:25 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.179.191.58] (HELO austin.kingdesign.net) (66.179.191.58) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:15:22 -0700 Received: (qmail 26584 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2004 02:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.111.103?) (65.160.10.237) by austin.kingdesign.net with SMTP; 11 Oct 2004 02:00:12 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <41688F4F.5050500@apache.org> References: <41682213.8080809@apache.org> <416876E2.2030904@apache.org> <41688F4F.5050500@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <48D8372E-1B29-11D9-BA6D-000A95D2D288@dotnot.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Scott Sanders Subject: Re: a few questions on our descriptors Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:00:11 -0700 To: "Gump code and data" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Oct 9, 2004, at 6:24 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > The golden rules of metadata are: > > 1) should be declerative (procedurality should be inferred) > 2) semantics should be absolute and not positional > > the XML model makes it hard to do 1) and extremely hard to do 2). Gump > descriptors are perfect examples of a markup that started as 1), > didn't even notice 2) and ended up breaking 1) as a result. > > Sigh, I guess we have a lot more work to do than I expected :-/ > > Third golden rule of metadata > > 3) should minimize semantic redundancy > > Great, we have found how gump descriptors break all three rules. And yet it has worked all these months ;) > > I guess it's time to go back to the drawing board. Just don't throw the baby out with the bath in the quest for the perfect metadata. Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@gump.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@gump.apache.org