Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-gump-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 54126 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2004 23:36:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Oct 2004 23:36:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 49682 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2004 23:35:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-gump-general-archive@gump.apache.org Received: (qmail 49628 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2004 23:35:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@gump.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Gump code and data" Reply-To: "Gump code and data" Delivered-To: mailing list general@gump.apache.org Received: (qmail 49573 invoked by uid 99); 18 Oct 2004 23:35:54 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [202.187.40.2] (HELO f2.hedhman.org) (202.187.40.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:35:52 -0700 Received: from f2.hedhman.org (f2.hedhman.org [127.0.0.1]) by f2.hedhman.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9IMYbiN032019 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:35:57 +0800 From: Niclas Hedhman Organization: Private To: general@gump.apache.org Subject: [RT] Selling Gump... Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:34:36 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410190634.36399.niclas@hedhman.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I think we need a major re-think about what Gump is and how it is perceived among our peers. Gump - The Apache Continous Integration Service. Keyword; "Service". We need to get rid of the "nags" in their current form. They are probably too intrusive and irritating. Instead of providing value to the projects, it creates at best an 'ignorance' of those messages. I think any project that are somewhat downstream, is no longer bothering about the Gump messages. I am not entirely sure what should be done, since the best solution I can think of is probably not applicable, and that is that whenever a commit is made, the project and all dependees are built, and if it fails, the 'notification' goes to the committer. We don't have enough CPU resources for such a brute approach. But I think we need to somehow tie the 'commits' into the build loop, so what when a regression occurs, a list of commits that may have affected that build can be reviewed easily. And secondly, let the Gump folks redirect the notifications manually, to where we believe them to belong. WDYT? Cheers Niclas -- +------//-------------------+ / http://www.bali.ac / / http://niclas.hedhman.org / +------//-------------------+ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@gump.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@gump.apache.org