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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:11:50 -0500
From: "Mark R. Diggory" <mdiggory@latte.harvard.edu>
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Subject: Re: [proposal] Is it time for gump.apache.org?
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Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> 
> On 30 Jan 2004, at 09:04, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> 
>> But do you really think that three or four people make up a community
>> big enough to warrant a TLP?
> 
> 
> Yes, in this particular case I do and I think this is mostly a 
> chicken/egg problem.
> 
> Gump, IMO, fails to attract the attention it deserves mostly for two 
> reasons:
> 
>  1) it "so looks" like a nightly build system that when people find out 
> it's not, they think it's screwed and don't bother go forward
> 
> [you probably wouldn't believe how many people don't really know what 
> gump is for and believe it's a nighthly build too that simply doesn't 
> work because it misses the real dependencies so it fakes them using the 
> HEAD of CVS]
> 
> D'oh!

I understood what gump is. and its use has an important place, I just 
though there was a possibility for combining the processes of nightly 
build and integration test.

> 
>  2) it's trapped in jakarta and jakarta is notoriously misfunctional in 
> allowing its internal projects to create their own cultural identity
> 

Jakarta is what you make of it, in my opinion, its a foundry, eventually 
a project may outgrow jakarta as a foundry. If your project is ready to 
go out on its own to get more exposure/identity, go for it.

>  3) more visibility helps the process of building a larger community [in 
> this regard, I think gump should have it's own site skin and not using 
> the default forrest one]
> 
> -- 
> Stefano.
> 
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Mark Diggory
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