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From d...@multitask.com.au
Subject Re: gump issues under winblows and a suggestion...
Date Sat, 11 Jan 2003 06:41:07 GMT
Any ideas on my performance issues under Win2k?
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dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
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Sam Ruby <rubys@apache.org> wrote on 11/01/2003 06:28:41 AM:

> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > 
> > Ant files are XML and transforming to them seems to be more natural. 
Ant 
> > isn't the most kind thing in the world for its "Hey this crap broke" 
> > messages, but it is FAR better than cmd.exe or bash in this respect.
> 
> Costin already started something along these lines:
> 
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-gump/stylesheet/ant-build.xsl
> 
> > Anyhow, I'm just curious what problems there are with this approach. 
As 
> > my level of pain increases I'll probably experiment with this, but I'm 

> > curious if others have thought of this and what the downsides are...
> 
> That may be a value use case for a large portion of the portion of the 
> potential "marketplace" for gump.
> 
> Issues:
> 
> * I want to fully bootstrap.  In my case, I want to build ant from 
> source and use that version later in the build.
> 
> * I want to be able to easily reproduce problems outside of the 
> environment generated by Gump.  Many times I've found it handy to be 
> able to send somebody a shell script or a batch file along with a set of 

> jars to reproduce a problem that they are *sure* must be Gump's fault.
> 
> * Leaky abstractions.  I've always found ant calling ant to be 
> confusing, particularly when it comes to what properties can be passed 
> and what can be modified.  But that may just be me.
> 
> * Modifying JDK levels and/or bootclasspath.  A persistent requirement 
> (despite never having been implemented, so take it with a grain of salt) 

> is to do a build with different portions of the build at different JDK 
> levels.  What is a real requirement, however, is the ability to modify 
> the bootclasspath between job steps.
> 
> All presented merely as food for thought.  They reasons may or may not 
> be applicable to you.  But there is no reason why Gump can't support 
> multiple targets - it already does so with bash and win2k.
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
> 
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