From users-return-3606-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@groovy.apache.org Wed Jun 13 09:17:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 57EF318077A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:17:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 46185 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jun 2018 07:17:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@groovy.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@groovy.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@groovy.apache.org Received: (qmail 46175 invoked by uid 99); 13 Jun 2018 07:17:50 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:17:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id BBCA9C86E8 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:17:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.389 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.389 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_NUMSUBJECT=0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qoqw-Bo5V44B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ua0-f182.google.com (mail-ua0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 79AC65F36F for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k14-v6so1033760uao.12 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 00:17:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Li4j3haW5Zp28ruXupBXay5lQLZ2ua24+TmRJQJA/r4=; b=i4daWYoik1el5aIFm+XyE7Uy/ngIzlJi/v9lmae8IpA56ylVKNcPz04Ibfio3JZy1H RQb77RxwTBKcMqWNQsWdXlNd9bqWOs6pOrfEE9dbh8hPPdQ78J7xGRa6shXn2sl5xxo7 dWf1nWmBZWNjjFNhXTmef50PI9NRAbKcLWJcSMPcxVYn9H6XCLvLVYxzPV4idI44jTk/ exSSpQgQA4czWZBetaTMwGfs+3QhoS32hU7+8rx+joj77AhKNjvLoVy6Yu4GwmRb78mi fC5ys6fhwMmBY/79ltlcqGyPNkh2KlB4kh96cTtQn0mwWywHDTZzQMCtmhFrL+O4mTOS qPEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Li4j3haW5Zp28ruXupBXay5lQLZ2ua24+TmRJQJA/r4=; b=TZbnBh8vvtZK11IFolGQrJhVRdgZqMT///DXlsfukB2d7bGZFuGmMq+k/UcGJHCVw/ A0pE0LN46KS73Ir9Yok/M0QkJN+3wf1YmwinaRN+wyTs+urEd6ZoUVb6ml/W9J7lGgy9 uWorxjh6Wdrx29hBpY+FLv1J6fmjAVOF3vXyANyBiz6KLYQFn5a5GgGYqa5uOPB1J0zu tjS7dOAXQJBxBje7UBKTj38g9wAbT5niuOVDA9LWmTYpKRGxVnO1Fuq9HvAPqkK7cKUW mblsKmhjifq6otPe7oASez9ItQYIWKpL2/RwyNqirwW8WJAF5aw2PKmOx+hrCE/yqtxt 7/Rg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1k+NlQTA8vk1iFw6SzcZEBfv/3GEZ6k/tPRETPmeNFjYb+LA+G 5ABNBW5gkHwjGA7qw3PBRsYHeAoYrBIt+hpGEcuX1Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIvwitmdL+3725cRXrUb6JhUvlEoWt6djSxRh0gADP0L7qFC6PL2BrUSs/46nqPzkrmUf3+v03L09GuLkLQ4nw= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:1962:: with SMTP id u34-v6mr2568687uag.202.1528874267750; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 00:17:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <103o4pv6oga6tmt47uej1nl1.1528873899190@simplicityitself.com> In-Reply-To: <103o4pv6oga6tmt47uej1nl1.1528873899190@simplicityitself.com> From: Alessio Stalla Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:17:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy 2.6 potential retirement to focus on Groovy 3.0 To: users@groovy.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a2b517056e80c7a7" --000000000000a2b517056e80c7a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2 for me as well. Il mer 13 giu 2018, 09:11 David Dawson ha scritto: > I would vote 2. > > Actually, i would vote 3) abandon 2.6 immediately. > > No projects I have any knowledge of still use jdk 7. > > *From:* paulk@asert.com.au > *Sent:* 13 June 2018 08:06 > *To:* users@groovy.apache.org > *Reply to:* users@groovy.apache.org > *Subject:* [DISCUSS] Groovy 2.6 potential retirement to focus on Groovy > 3.0 > > > Hi everyone, > > There was some discussion at gr8conf about how to speed up delivery of > Groovy 3.0. Some of that discussion was around the scope of what we want to > include and have yet to complete in 3.0 but I won't discuss that right now. > > One of the other discussion points was Groovy around 2.6. As many of you > know, we have released alpha versions of Groovy 2.6. That version is a > backport of most but not all of Groovy 3.0 to JDK7 including the Parrot > parser (though it isn't enabled by default). The purpose of this version > has always been to assist people/projects wanting to use the Parrot parser > but who might be stuck on JDK7. So in some sense it is an intermediate > version to assist with porting towards Groovy 3.0. While that is still a > noble goal in theory, in practice, many of our users are already on JDK8 > and we have limited resources to work on many potential areas. > > With that in mind, we'd like to understand the preferences in our user > base for the following two options: > > Option 1: please continue releasing the best possible 2.6 even if that > slows down the final release of Groovy 3.0 and delays further work on > better support for JDK9+. > > Option 2: please release one more alpha of 2.6 over the next month or so > which will become the best version to use to assist porting for users stuck > on JDK7 and then focus on 3.0. The 2.6 branch will essentially be retired > though we will consider PRs from the community for critical fixes. > > Feedback welcome. > > Cheers, Paul. > > > --000000000000a2b517056e80c7a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2 for me as well.

Il mer 13 giu 2018, 09:11 David Dawson <david.dawson@simplicityitself.com>= ; ha scritto:
I would vote 2.

Actual= ly, i would vote 3) abandon 2.6 immediately.

No projects I have any knowl= edge of still use jdk 7.
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Sent: 13= June 2018 08:06
Subject: [DISCUSS] Groovy 2.6 potential retireme= nt to focus on Groovy 3.0

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Hi everyone,
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There was some discussion at gr8conf about how to speed up de= livery of Groovy 3.0. Some of that discussion was around the scope of what = we want to include and have yet to complete in 3.0 but I won't discuss = that right now.

One of the other discussion points= was Groovy around 2.6. As many of you know, we have released alpha version= s of Groovy 2.6. That version is a backport of most but not all of Groovy 3= .0 to JDK7 including the Parrot parser (though it isn't enabled by defa= ult). The purpose of this version has always been to assist people/projects= wanting to use the Parrot parser but who might be stuck on JDK7. So in som= e sense it is an intermediate version to assist with porting towards Groovy= 3.0. While that is still a noble goal in theory, in practice, many of our = users are already on JDK8 and we have limited resources to work on many pot= ential areas.

With that in mind, we'd like to = understand the preferences in our user base for the following two options:<= /div>

Option 1: please continue releasing the best possi= ble 2.6 even if that slows down the final release of Groovy 3.0 and delays = further work on better support for JDK9+.

Option 2= : please release one more alpha of 2.6 over the next month or so which will= become the best version to use to assist porting for users stuck on JDK7 a= nd then focus on 3.0. The 2.6 branch will essentially be retired though we = will consider PRs from the community for critical fixes.

Feedback welcome.

Cheers, Paul.
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