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From Eric Helgeson <erichelge...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Alternative JVM with Groovy (Azul,...) ?
Date Thu, 08 Mar 2018 14:55:07 GMT
Charles,

Zulu == Azul's JDK correct? https://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/

-Eric

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:51 AM Charles Monteiro <charles.monteiro@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Eric:
>
>
> I don’t see Azul on seaman but I do see the Java feature from zulu.org
> ,so that is what you mean right ? thanks
>
> --
> Charles Monteiro
>
>
> On March 8, 2018 at 9:06:01 AM, Eric Helgeson (erichelgeson@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It used to be the case that OpenJDK and OracleJDK  had quite a few
> differences in terms of performance and compatibility. But that is no
> longer the case in my experience & should be no technical differences in
> the near future:
>
> [1] > [The] intent is that within a few releases there should be no
> technical differences between OpenJDK builds and Oracle JDK binaries.
>
> In fact many IaaS platforms can only run OpenJDK due to licensing - so if
> you're running Grails on AWS Elastic Beanstalk you're already using OpenJDK
> (which we do).
>
> Since AWS uses OpenJDK I've been using Azul on my Mac (via sdkman) for
> quite some time and have not noticed any incompatibilities or differences
> when running Grails or other small groovy apps/scripts.
>
> With Oracle's new release cadence and no overlapping support timelines[2]
> - I don't see how any non-oracle-paying java users could use anything but
> OpenJDK. For me I don't want to spend time upgrading my JDK - would rather
> ship customers features :)
>
> Just my 2c & experience,
> -Eric
>
> PS: Maybe worth reaching out to Azul and asking what tests they did to
> mention Scala - and to add Groovy there too :D
>
> [1] https://medium.com/codefx-weekly/no-free-java-lts-version-b850192745fb
> <https://medium.com/codefx-weekly/no-free-java-lts-version-b850192745fb>
> [2] https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/1*vkAzxUI6lgP5sH7qfbNEqQ.png
> <https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/1*vkAzxUI6lgP5sH7qfbNEqQ.png>
> (via [1])
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:09 AM mg <mgbiz@arscreat.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would be interested to hear if anyone has experience with using
>> alternative JVMs with Groovy, especially Azul (https://www.azul.com/) ?
>>
>> Licensing costs for long term OpenJDK support seem to be much lower, and
>> the JVM has additional benefits such as an elastic memory model (JVM memory
>> is dynamically allocated/deallocated from the os), continuous concurrent
>> garbage collection without freeze-the-world fallback, and application
>> startup (warmup) time improvements.
>> But I am worried about Groovy compatibility (they only mention Scala
>> explicitly on the web page)...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>>
>>
>> --
>
> -Eric Helgeson
>
> --

-Eric Helgeson

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